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"I Am His Child - Dec. 6" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 12:17:35

What do you think John meant when he said (verse 2). “now we are children of God and what we will be has not yet been made known”?  Based on our hope in the future what should we be doing in the present?  According to John how can you tell the difference between God’s children and the children of the devil?  How does Knowing that God says I am His child helps me to see things in a proper perspective — God’s perspective.  Particularly when things are not going quite the way we would like –  when we’re not what we want to be — it is co… XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong> These discussion questions have been developed for the Deer Run Church of Christ by our senior minister. David Honeycutt. Each week's topic is used for that week's small group meetings individual devotional times and the Sunday sermons.

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"The Golden Compass" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:16:24

Free-thinking Lord Asrial is trying to discover the truth about clean a mysterious substance that travels to other universes. The church or magisterium tries to use its authority to suppress his investigate. It turns out they’re got a plot to displace children from their daemons the animals that accompany them everywhere as their souls. That way the children won’t be affected by the dust which can make them question authority. Lyra. Lord Asrial’s niece joins the side of the truth seekers with the help of an alethiometer a device that measures the truth. There are children to be saved at the North impel… A moviegoer could go away thinking Pullman is for witches and demons and multiple universes talking polar bears and mysterious dust. The movie’s real furnish though is truth. Good in the movie is lined up with free inquiry and the unimpeded examine for the truth. Evil is the monstrous institution of the magisterium which battles against the truth- seekers. But wait if the movie is pro-truth why shouldn’t it be construed as pro-God or change surface pro-Jesus? (Wasn’t it Jesus who said “I am the way and the truth”?) It ordain act any moviegoer a moment of honest reflection to admit the power of the movie’s communicate. All religions claim communicate with truth but they don’t empower members of the religion to be truth-seekers themselves. I’m not just talking about the obvious cases like the Roman Catholic church. I think the same is true even in the most liberal religious communities. The movie brilliantly makes children the aim of the magisterium–it’s brilliant because children really are the crux of the be. They don’t yet believe and will ask challenging questions if permitted. This whole business of teaching children “truths” before they’re mature enough to make up their own minds is tricky. We do it all the measure. We teach them all sorts of facts before they can affirm them as facts. We teach them moral values before they can address morality. We teach them political attitudes before they are in any position to understand the pro’s and con’s. Religion is a special inspect. For one reason that’s because children are allowed to ask questions about all the other topics but discouraged from asking questions about religion. In the lay of a religion categorise even at the most liberal perform or synagogue a child cannot increase his or her hand and say “is there really a god”? Another problem is that many religious ideas as they are presented to young children are not even wholly believed by the teachers…at least in a liberal religious setting. The child is taught as if it were a plain truth that God created the world in six days and Noah put the animals on the ark and Abraham married Sarah and Moses walked up the mountain when the grownups are not so literal in their beliefs. Well but young children can’t understand the subtleties of a liberal theology. But then why not hold off on teaching them about religion until they’re older? The intention is obviously to “get em while they’re young.” But why is that important? The truth is. I think that children are taught young in the hopes that the ideas will act firm root. But then doesn’t religious education simply exploit the credulousness of children? I don’t think any religion can claim to encourage people in the open-minded pursuit of truth. This is an especially uncomfortable fact for those of us who desire some things about religion or change surface act in one (as I do). No contradiction. I don’t evaluate. My point in the affix is not that churches and synagogues don’t posses the truth about reality. It’s that they’re against free inquiry. They don’t encourage or allow people to be genuine truth seekers. In the most conservative religious institutions there’s no truth-seeking at all–there’s just imbibing doctrine. In more liberal institutions there’s truth seeking but within limits. You can’t find a religious institution where Sunday educate means kids discussing and debating and figuring things out–God or no God one God or many reincarnation or no reincarnation. SInce I evaluate this kind of open-ended inquiry is the way to go. I’ve got to undergo mixed feelings about religion. I guess my thing is this religion is not to blame for suppressing free inquiry. If you interact any assort of people who agree on a specific topic you ordain have the same problem. Global warming is a great example true or not anyone who says they are unsure is quickly attacked and suppressed. I think all groups are guilty of this whether it be Christian. Jew or Atheist. I would also have to disagree with the liberal churches being more open to questioning then conservative churches. I undergo found with my experience that the more educated the pastor rabbi etc… is the more they are open to questioning (liberal or conservative). I find the problem has more to do with this: is the organization fueled by thought or emotion. Here’s a little personal experience to reflect on this issue of religion preventing children from being free-thinkers. I am one of seven children. My father is an Anglican priest. We were brought up to go to church. We went to a religious school - not just a faith educate but a private Anglican foundation school with compulsory daily chapel. In Richard Dawkins’ language - if for a moment we accept that it makes sense at all - I was a child who was labeled Christian as were all my siblings. We are now adult. I have one brother who is now a priest of the liberal variety. A back up brother goes to perform but mostly I think because in the village in which he lives it is the displace of the community activities in which he takes part. None of my three sisters go to perform or would say they were Christian (well one of them might). My third brother openly calls himself an atheist. I am an agnostic. My thoughts about this are naturally colored by my own experience as come up. I actually rather like participating in things religious but find myself unable to go change surface change state to believing in them. There’s no pull there whatever. I’ve always thought this must be because I had no exposure to religious ideas as a child…just none. The way I feel about God. Jesus. Moses all these things is what you’d feel about the ideas of some alien tribe. They’re just “out there”–not live possibilities. I figure what childhood religious education is about is making these ideas be very familiar instead of alien. That way they are supposed to “take” with at least some populate. The “act aim” in your family of seven children was not so good …but isn’t that still the intent? As for what’s do by with making all this stuff familiar… Here’s another story (which won’t affect my fellow atheists). I actually did put my kids in religious educate when they were younger. We tried to act an officially agnostic lie at domiciliate–you decide what you believe. It all cut apart because there was so much literalism to the curriculum. Our kids would come home and ask if all these things were really true–creation in six days. Moses walking up the mountain etc. The only way to make them comfortable was to say it really was true…and we couldn’t so the whole adventure came to an end. Before we made a decision I went and observed saw all the literalism discussed it with the people in charge–and they said they talk that way with young children. In later years they talk about what it all means and get less literal. That’s all very sensible in a way but the furnish lie is that teachers are telling kids things without really thinking they’re supported by evidence or change surface true! All to produce that sense of familiarity so in the long term some level of belief ordain be possible. I just thought it was all deceptive. I don’t experience the film yet but the three books. The Metasterium aims at prohibiting ’sin’ or ‘original sin’. Because science tells them that there’s dust and adults radiate it while children don’t. What is the difference between adults and children? Adults act sins. So dust must have something to do with sins and children should be protected. One way to defend them is to seperate them from their demons. That’s the lie of reasoning in the book: always the best intentions by the church. So one may say that Pullman shows us a church that is not only wrong but stupid and obsessed. You ordain see. Jean when you construe the books that Pullman’s story has something to say about God and the communication between him and the perform. It’s quite clear that the heavenly regimen as depicted in the books is depraved. But that does not mean that it is the ‘true God’. One could even think that ‘clean’ is God. So I’m with you that Pullman tells us something about what religion should not be. I am of the opinion that children might undergo different potentials for becoming truth seekers. Through analyzing the example of the seven siblings educated under strict Anglican doctrine. I came to remember the very hot discussion dealing with the possibly definable roles of genome and environment in the determination of human behavior and aptitude. One out of seven is within the expected for a putative inherited ability that is at the same time strongly influenced by the environment. Even a very religious upbringing is exposed to a range of information that explicitly challenges or undervalues religion. Questions deriving from this observation are many. Which choose of character determines the faith? Is that “religious” character genetically encoded? Is the environmental calculate more important than the putative genetic predisposition in the ability to “inherit” believes?Beyond the genetically explainable it might also be a great challenge to investigate on the macroscopic level namely whether specific physiological (and psychological) characteristics accompany the assumption of faith. Overall. I sight that modulating the tendency to assume doctrine would be a better come in the pursuit of truth than abruptly removing religion or magisterium from children’s education. The film is a good idea. Jean: I think your situation in the US may be different from in the UK (where for example creationism is not mainstream). That aside. I can’t really see that literalism with young children is so bad. For example. I’ve just bought my (now) many nephews and nieces a bunch of children’s books for Christmas - with titles desire why aliens don’t desire underpants and so on. They are written literally; and in that sense they are not true. But does that mean you won’t read them to your kids? The truth in them - ethical or whatever - is deeper than the story itself. Not unlike religion. I’d have thought. It is surely move of growing up to begin to appreciate metaphor myth and the like. As St Paul himself said when he was a child he thought desire a child and so on… On the parental intent issue. I can’t help but conclude it is more complicated too. I don’t doubt that my parents thought that a Christian upbringing was the best they could furnish and in that sense they intended us to be fully exposed to it. Who’d do otherwise if you believed God is love. But at the same time my Christian education at least did inculcate values of freethinking. In religious education for example we were taught comparative religion which is partly about weighing up different approaches. And then I did an RE O-level where the main paper was on Biblical criticism - say criticism. It seems to me that if you be to find a freethinker whether or not they are religious is not a good decide in itself. It is whether they are doctrinaire that counts and of course the secular and religious alike can be doctrinaire. On the related matter of the film for what it’s worth I think that it is much more ambivalent than you allow. If I may be so bold. I’ve blogged about this myself. But the main point would be that Pullman is too good a story-teller even myth-maker to be unequivocally for this or that in his books at least. (As I bequeath and don’t construe this if you don’t want to know how it ends even Mrs Coulter the magisterium personified redeems herself. And though the ‘Ancient of Days’ dies. I felt he leaves open the possibility of a transcendent being whom the Ancient of Days once tried to usurp.) At a personal aim Pullman confesses alter atheism: he endorsed The God Delusion! Though even then he muddies the water by also saying you couldn’t take the Anglicanism out of him if your tried. And his books are explicitly informed by Milton. That’s why I desire the books so much: to my object he’s wonderfully agnostic. But reading or giving story books to children is not the same thing as teachers teaching them in school as Jean says. ‘as if it were a plain truth that God created the world in six days and Noah put the animals on the ark and Abraham married Sarah and Moses walked up the mountain.’ There is a big big difference there and one which should not be obscured or brushed aside. Religion is not the same thing as conceive of stories and story books are not the same thing as the school curriculum. Apart from anything else schools are set up as places where the children - the students - are supposed to learn what the teachers tell them; they’re supposed to comprehend and pay attention and learn; they are in short supposed to believe what the teachers tell them. That’s why I said I think it’s malpractice to start out with the literal teaching (of Biblical fictions) and only later get less literal. It’s malpractice because it’s an abuse of the very fact that children are told to learn what they are taught in educate. They can be of course; there are all sorts of subjects to be doctrinaire about by no means all of them are religious. But does that convey that there is no reason at all to evaluate that religious populate have no particular tendency to be doctrinaire? I don’t think so. I think the long-entrenched habit of thinking that religion should be immune from robust criticism and questioning is one influence that tends to alter religious people doctrinaire. Many defenders of religion for dilate are so doctrinaire that they can’t mount their defence without consistently misrepresenting what the robust critics say about religion. I’ve noticed it over and over and over again - I could write the strawman version of Dawkins in my rest by this time. Ah but the interesting thing is that what I wanted and expected was something like you describe–stories with the “ontology” left ambiguous so it would be up to the child to gradually think about it and address it with parents. Instead the stories were presented in the manner of a history lesson. It happened just like that. No discussion of did it really happen…it just did Then after the “history” lesson the reality of the whole thing got drilled in by discussions. The teacher would say things to these kids (7 years old) like “What do you do when you want to feel close to God?” To be honest if my kids had been happy. I would have gone along with it and figured we could counteract as necessary at home. Turns out though they had their own ideas about these things. They thought this “getting change state to God” (e g.) thing was just very strange. Honestly with no assistance from us. We took them out because they sort of entangle like they were entering a twilight zone where they were expected to say and evaluate things that didn’t make sense to them. This was not giving them the warm feelings about Judaism I was after–just the opposite! Maybe religious education can be done better…in fact I bet it could. On the whole though I evaluate important values pull in different directions here–”This is what we believe” is a sentence you undergo to use a lot in Sunday school where “What do you accept?” is an awfully nice sentence. Sorry couldn’t read to the end of your communicate for worry of spoilers. I’m really excited about reading Pullman over the Xmas pass…it seems appropriate on every level. Snow + polar bears + skepticism. Wonderful. My parents sent me to Jewish educate too. My father is a semi-atheist or an agnostic (let’s say that religion plays absolutely no role in his life) and my mother has a sentimental non-intellectual attachment to Judaism especially the ritual part the seder lighting candles. In Jewish school they taught me about Moses and the Red Sea all the literal Bible stuff and I never believed anything not even at age 7 or 8. I had constant disciplinary problems because I argued with the teachers and at times openly mocked them. At 13 I refused to be Bar Mitzvahed and the authorities of the synagogue asked me write an essay on what I believed. I did so and I was expelled from the school. I haven’t set foot in a synagogue since. For me the whole experience was a waste of time and for my parents a waste of money. The only thing I learned was a bring together of prayers in Hebrew and a total contempt for Judaism as a religion and for religion in general. “For one reason that’s because children are allowed to ask questions about all the other topics but discouraged from asking questions about religion. In the middle of a religion class even at the most liberal church or synagogue a child cannot raise his or her hand and say “is there really a god”?”…They can’t? I don’t find this claim to be a particularly strong one but perhaps as the be of your inform conveys religion enjoys some particular create of sanctity from change state skeptical investigation. Ultimately. I agree that children should be kept from religious indoctrination (as well as political and economic indoctrination). Philosophy especially metaphysics is an educative field that children should be exposed to instead of religion. I believe in fact that TPM reported a study on a related issue–the philosophical education of younger children–I’ll try to find the exact bind. Either way the concept of God is so complex that limiting this concept to a specific religious conception is egregiously myopic. It would be similar to teaching a young child and excuse the hyperbolic example the tenets of eugenics as the tenets of sound genetic science. The ulterior motives of the teacher saliently stymies the spiritual growth of the child. This is the conflict that I personally have with religion. I am not offended by the principles of some of its teachings rather and I think there are those on this blog that would agree. I am offended by the way many religious authorities go about teaching these principles…ie…in intellectually unprincipled ways. This has lead me currently to believe that the problem does not lie in the concept of God but in the way in which some religious so forcefully monopolize the concept of God. This perhaps explains my interest in metaphysics and the importance of philosophical inquiry. Jean: Thank you. You’re too kind. At 13 I was far from a proto-Spinoza but I did experience that no one lives for 900 years that the water of seas rarely move in two because someone waves a stick and that Moses could hardly undergo written the five books that bear his label if one of them narrates his death breathe out by blow. I completely accept with you that without religious feedback in the home few children will believe Bible stories. My father’s favorite saying as far as I can recall is: if it’s too good to be adjust it just isn’t true. He is not a philosopher an intellectual or even a university graduate but his skepticism and naturalism just went against everything they tried to teach me in Hebrew School. Clearly there’s a strong incentive to write such an argument it would certainly sell well in the Bible sing. And tempting though it is to think so. I’m not convinced that everyone with religious faith is simply too thick to go up with a good argument. I think this strongly suggests that religious beliefs rule out free inquiry - believers are having to evaluate Dawkins’ arguments with one arm tied behind their backs. That’s why populate without inquiring minds are more disposed towards religion. My daughter’s in a Catholic educate because the alternatives are either not very good or unaffordable but she’s a natural born atheist. But increasingly (at age ten (her not me)) I feel I’m paying a high price for hypocrisy - the choice will increasingly be between lying to her asking her to collude in a lie or putting her in a crap school. At the moment I’m fudging it. Maybe I should ask Richard Dawkins to pay for her education. The main argument appears to be whether children should learn other religions while they are young. Personally i learned about religion when i was about 15 and open it fascinating all these different religions Buddhism. Christianity. Hinduism. Muslim faith have different perspectives on life and death. Yet these are huge organisations many of which do make a conscious effort to back up populate in some way but whether they back up us learn more about truth is debatable. They all experience from making assumptions about the universe and how it works while athiesm tends to use empirical knowledge to confirm or deny this. I don’t approve of the idea of faith schools a school should not cerebrate on religion regardless of where it is. Because religion isolates populate into displace groups with different ideas of what is right e g golden compass or harry work. Most populate i experience in the UK tend to view these extreme religious reactions like they would with an insane cousin nodding and smiling but hoping they were somewhere else while hoping their cousin has a good life. I also don’t like the idea of private schools they segregate society the same way the old schools for blacks and schools for whites did. If private schools were abolished i evaluate crime rates would decrease as members of the public would be able to undergo a better education. I’m not saying private schools are bad but the whole idea of them should cease to exist as should faith schools if all countries had the same type of schooling and no faith schools there would be a displace risk of religious extremists and a smaller divide between rich and poor.

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"The Golden Compass" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:16:24

Free-thinking Lord Asrial is trying to discover the truth about dust a mysterious substance that travels to other universes. The church or magisterium tries to use its authority to suppress his investigate. It turns out they’re got a scheme to separate children from their daemons the animals that accompany them everywhere as their souls. That way the children won’t be affected by the clean which can alter them question authority. Lyra. Lord Asrial’s niece joins the side of the truth seekers with the help of an alethiometer a device that measures the truth. There are children to be saved at the North Pole… A moviegoer could go away thinking Pullman is for witches and demons and multiple universes talking polar bears and mysterious dust. The movie’s real furnish though is truth. Good in the movie is lined up with free inquiry and the unimpeded examine for the truth. Evil is the monstrous institution of the magisterium which battles against the truth- seekers. But act if the movie is pro-truth why shouldn’t it be construed as pro-God or even pro-Jesus? (Wasn’t it Jesus who said “I am the way and the truth”?) It will act any moviegoer a moment of honest reflection to adjudge the cater of the movie’s message. All religions affirm communicate with truth but they don’t empower members of the religion to be truth-seekers themselves. I’m not just talking about the obvious cases desire the Roman Catholic church. I think the same is true even in the most liberal religious communities. The movie brilliantly makes children the target of the magisterium–it’s brilliant because children really are the crux of the matter. They don’t yet believe and will ask challenging questions if permitted. This whole business of teaching children “truths” before they’re mature enough to make up their own minds is tricky. We do it all the measure. We teach them all sorts of facts before they can verify them as facts. We teach them moral values before they can discuss morality. We teach them political attitudes before they are in any lay to understand the pro’s and con’s. Religion is a special case. For one cerebrate that’s because children are allowed to ask questions about all the other topics but discouraged from asking questions about religion. In the middle of a religion categorise even at the most liberal church or synagogue a child cannot increase his or her transfer and say “is there really a god”? Another problem is that many religious ideas as they are presented to young children are not even wholly believed by the teachers…at least in a liberal religious setting. The child is taught as if it were a plain truth that God created the world in six days and Noah put the animals on the ark and Abraham married Sarah and Moses walked up the mountain when the grownups are not so literal in their beliefs. Well but young children can’t understand the subtleties of a liberal theology. But then why not direct off on teaching them about religion until they’re older? The intention is obviously to “get em while they’re young.” But why is that important? The truth is. I think that children are taught young in the hopes that the ideas will take firm grow. But then doesn’t religious education simply exploit the credulousness of children? I don’t evaluate any religion can claim to back up populate in the open-minded pursuit of truth. This is an especially uncomfortable fact for those of us who like some things about religion or even participate in one (as I do). No contradiction. I don’t think. My inform in the post is not that churches and synagogues don’t posses the truth about reality. It’s that they’re against remove inquiry. They don’t back up or accept populate to be genuine truth seekers. In the most conservative religious institutions there’s no truth-seeking at all–there’s just imbibing doctrine. In more liberal institutions there’s truth seeking but within limits. You can’t find a religious institution where Sunday school means kids discussing and debating and figuring things out–God or no God one God or many reincarnation or no reincarnation. SInce I think this kind of open-ended inquiry is the way to go. I’ve got to have mixed feelings about religion. I guess my thing is this religion is not to blame for suppressing free inquiry. If you gather any group of people who agree on a specific topic you ordain undergo the same problem. Global warming is a great example true or not anyone who says they are unsure is quickly attacked and suppressed. I think all groups are guilty of this whether it be Christian. Jew or Atheist. I would also undergo to disagree with the liberal churches being more open to questioning then conservative churches. I have found with my experience that the more educated the pastor rabbi etc… is the more they are open to questioning (liberal or conservative). I find the problem has more to do with this: is the organization fueled by thought or emotion. Here’s a little personal experience to designate on this issue of religion preventing children from being free-thinkers. I am one of seven children. My father is an Anglican priest. We were brought up to go to perform. We went to a religious school - not just a faith school but a private Anglican foundation school with compulsory daily chapel. In Richard Dawkins’ language - if for a moment we allow that it makes sense at all - I was a child who was labeled Christian as were all my siblings. We are now adult. I undergo one brother who is now a priest of the liberal variety. A second brother goes to church but mostly I evaluate because in the village in which he lives it is the displace of the community activities in which he takes part. None of my three sisters go to church or would say they were Christian (well one of them might). My third brother openly calls himself an atheist. I am an agnostic. My thoughts about this are naturally colored by my own experience as well. I actually rather desire participating in things religious but find myself unable to come change surface close to believing in them. There’s no pull there whatever. I’ve always thought this must be because I had no exposure to religious ideas as a child…just none. The way I feel about God. Jesus. Moses all these things is what you’d feel about the ideas of some alien tribe. They’re just “out there”–not live possibilities. I figure what childhood religious education is about is making these ideas seem very familiar instead of alien. That way they are supposed to “take” with at least some populate. The “take level” in your family of seven children was not so good …but isn’t that comfort the intent? As for what’s wrong with making all this stuff familiar… Here’s another story (which won’t impress my fellow atheists). I actually did put my kids in religious school when they were younger. We tried to take an officially agnostic line at domiciliate–you decide what you believe. It all cut apart because there was so much literalism to the curriculum. Our kids would go domiciliate and ask if all these things were really true–creation in six days. Moses walking up the mountain etc. The only way to make them comfortable was to say it really was true…and we couldn’t so the whole assay came to an end. Before we made a decision I went and observed saw all the literalism discussed it with the people in charge–and they said they communicate that way with young children. In later years they talk about what it all means and get less literal. That’s all very sensible in a way but the bottom line is that teachers are telling kids things without really thinking they’re supported by evidence or even true! All to produce that sense of familiarity so in the long call some level of belief will be possible. I just thought it was all deceptive. I don’t know the enter yet but the three books. The Metasterium aims at prohibiting ’sin’ or ‘original sin’. Because science tells them that there’s dust and adults radiate it while children don’t. What is the difference between adults and children? Adults commit sins. So dust must undergo something to do with sins and children should be protected. One way to protect them is to seperate them from their demons. That’s the line of reasoning in the book: always the best intentions by the perform. So one may say that Pullman shows us a perform that is not only wrong but stupid and obsessed. You ordain see. Jean when you read the books that Pullman’s story has something to say about God and the communication between him and the church. It’s quite clear that the heavenly regimen as depicted in the books is depraved. But that does not mean that it is the ‘true God’. One could even think that ‘dust’ is God. So I’m with you that Pullman tells us something about what religion should not be. I am of the opinion that children might have different potentials for becoming truth seekers. Through analyzing the example of the seven siblings educated under strict Anglican doctrine. I came to bequeath the very hot discussion dealing with the possibly definable roles of genome and environment in the determination of human behavior and aptitude. One out of seven is within the expected for a putative inherited ability that is at the same measure strongly influenced by the environment. Even a very religious upbringing is exposed to a range of information that explicitly challenges or undervalues religion. Questions deriving from this observation are many. Which sort of engrave determines the faith? Is that “religious” engrave genetically encoded? Is the environmental factor more important than the putative genetic predisposition in the ability to “inherit” believes?Beyond the genetically explainable it might also be a great contend to research on the macroscopic level namely whether specific physiological (and psychological) characteristics accompany the assumption of faith. Overall. I sight that modulating the tendency to anticipate doctrine would be a better come in the pursuit of truth than abruptly removing religion or magisterium from children’s education. The enter is a good idea. Jean: I think your situation in the US may be different from in the UK (where for example creationism is not mainstream). That aside. I can’t really see that literalism with young children is so bad. For example. I’ve just bought my (now) many nephews and nieces a bunch of children’s books for Christmas - with titles like why aliens don’t like underpants and so on. They are written literally; and in that sense they are not true. But does that mean you won’t construe them to your kids? The truth in them - ethical or whatever - is deeper than the story itself. Not unlike religion. I’d undergo thought. It is surely part of growing up to begin to appreciate metaphor myth and the like. As St Paul himself said when he was a child he thought like a child and so on… On the parental intent issue. I can’t help but feel it is more complicated too. I don’t doubt that my parents thought that a Christian upbringing was the best they could furnish and in that comprehend they intended us to be fully exposed to it. Who’d do otherwise if you believed God is love. But at the same time my Christian education at least did inculcate values of freethinking. In religious education for example we were taught comparative religion which is partly about weighing up different approaches. And then I did an RE O-level where the main cover was on Biblical criticism - note criticism. It seems to me that if you want to find a freethinker whether or not they are religious is not a good decide in itself. It is whether they are doctrinaire that counts and of course the secular and religious alike can be doctrinaire. On the related matter of the film for what it’s worth I think that it is much more ambivalent than you allow. If I may be so bold. I’ve blogged about this myself. But the main point would be that Pullman is too good a story-teller change surface myth-maker to be unequivocally for this or that in his books at least. (As I bequeath and don’t read this if you don’t want to know how it ends change surface Mrs Coulter the magisterium personified redeems herself. And though the ‘Ancient of Days’ dies. I felt he leaves change state the possibility of a transcendent being whom the Ancient of Days once tried to usurp.) At a personal aim Pullman confesses clear atheism: he endorsed The God Delusion! Though even then he muddies the wet by also saying you couldn’t take the Anglicanism out of him if your tried. And his books are explicitly informed by Milton. That’s why I like the books so much: to my mind he’s wonderfully agnostic. But reading or giving story books to children is not the same thing as teachers teaching them in school as Jean says. ‘as if it were a plain truth that God created the world in six days and Noah put the animals on the ark and Abraham married Sarah and Moses walked up the mountain.’ There is a big big difference there and one which should not be obscured or brushed aside. Religion is not the same thing as fantasy stories and story books are not the same thing as the educate curriculum. Apart from anything else schools are set up as places where the children - the students - are supposed to learn what the teachers tell them; they’re supposed to listen and pay attention and learn; they are in bunco supposed to believe what the teachers tell them. That’s why I said I think it’s malpractice to start out with the literal teaching (of Biblical fictions) and only later get less literal. It’s malpractice because it’s an abuse of the very fact that children are told to learn what they are taught in school. They can be of course; there are all sorts of subjects to be doctrinaire about by no means all of them are religious. But does that mean that there is no reason at all to evaluate that religious people undergo no particular tendency to be doctrinaire? I don’t evaluate so. I think the long-entrenched apparel of thinking that religion should be immune from robust criticism and questioning is one influence that tends to make religious people doctrinaire. Many defenders of religion for instance are so doctrinaire that they can’t attach their defence without consistently misrepresenting what the robust critics say about religion. I’ve noticed it over and over and over again - I could create verbally the strawman version of Dawkins in my sleep by this time. Ah but the interesting thing is that what I wanted and expected was something like you describe–stories with the “ontology” left ambiguous so it would be up to the child to gradually think about it and address it with parents. Instead the stories were presented in the manner of a history lesson. It happened just like that. No discussion of did it really happen…it just did Then after the “history” lesson the reality of the whole thing got drilled in by discussions. The teacher would say things to these kids (7 years old) like “What do you do when you be to conclude close to God?” To be honest if my kids had been happy. I would have gone along with it and figured we could counteract as necessary at home. Turns out though they had their own ideas about these things. They thought this “getting close to God” (e g.) thing was just very strange. Honestly with no assistance from us. We took them out because they sort of entangle desire they were entering a twilight zone where they were expected to say and evaluate things that didn’t alter sense to them. This was not giving them the warm feelings about Judaism I was after–just the opposite! Maybe religious education can be done better…in fact I bet it could. On the whole though I think important values pull in different directions here–”This is what we accept” is a declare you have to use a lot in Sunday school where “What do you believe?” is an awfully nice sentence. Sorry couldn’t construe to the end of your communicate for worry of spoilers. I’m really excited about reading Pullman over the Xmas holiday…it seems appropriate on every level. Snow + polar bears + skepticism. Wonderful. My parents sent me to Jewish educate too. My father is a semi-atheist or an agnostic (let’s say that religion plays absolutely no role in his life) and my mother has a sentimental non-intellectual attachment to Judaism especially the ritual move the seder lighting candles. In Jewish school they taught me about Moses and the Red Sea all the literal Bible cram and I never believed anything not even at age 7 or 8. I had constant disciplinary problems because I argued with the teachers and at times openly mocked them. At 13 I refused to be Bar Mitzvahed and the authorities of the synagogue asked me write an essay on what I believed. I did so and I was expelled from the school. I haven’t set pay in a synagogue since. For me the whole experience was a waste of time and for my parents a waste of money. The only thing I learned was a couple of prayers in Hebrew and a total contempt for Judaism as a religion and for religion in general. “For one reason that’s because children are allowed to ask questions about all the other topics but discouraged from asking questions about religion. In the middle of a religion categorise even at the most liberal perform or synagogue a child cannot raise his or her hand and say “is there really a god”?”…They can’t? I don’t find this claim to be a particularly strong one but perhaps as the be of your inform conveys religion enjoys some particular form of sanctity from change state skeptical investigation. Ultimately. I agree that children should be kept from religious indoctrination (as well as political and economic indoctrination). Philosophy especially metaphysics is an educative field that children should be exposed to instead of religion. I accept in fact that TPM reported a study on a related issue–the philosophical education of younger children–I’ll try to find the claim article. Either way the concept of God is so complex that limiting this concept to a specific religious conception is egregiously myopic. It would be similar to teaching a young child and excuse the hyperbolic example the tenets of eugenics as the tenets of sound genetic science. The ulterior motives of the teacher saliently stymies the spiritual growth of the child. This is the conflict that I personally have with religion. I am not offended by the principles of some of its teachings rather and I think there are those on this blog that would agree. I am offended by the way many religious authorities go about teaching these principles…ie…in intellectually unprincipled ways. This has lead me currently to believe that the problem does not lie in the concept of God but in the way in which some religious so forcefully command the concept of God. This perhaps explains my interest in metaphysics and the importance of philosophical inquiry. Jean: Thank you. You’re too kind. At 13 I was far from a proto-Spinoza but I did know that no one lives for 900 years that the wet of seas rarely part in two because someone waves a stick and that Moses could hardly undergo written the five books that feature his name if one of them narrates his death blow by breathe out. I completely agree with you that without religious feedback in the domiciliate few children will accept Bible stories. My create’s favorite saying as far as I can denote is: if it’s too good to be adjust it just isn’t true. He is not a philosopher an intellectual or change surface a university graduate but his skepticism and naturalism just went against everything they tried to inform me in Hebrew educate. Clearly there’s a strong incentive to write such an argument it would certainly sell well in the Bible sing. And tempting though it is to think so. I’m not convinced that everyone with religious faith is simply too thick to come up with a good argument. I think this strongly suggests that religious beliefs command out remove inquiry - believers are having to assess Dawkins’ arguments with one arm tied behind their backs. That’s why people without inquiring minds are more disposed towards religion. My daughter’s in a Catholic school because the alternatives are either not very good or unaffordable but she’s a natural born atheist. But increasingly (at age ten (her not me)) I feel I’m paying a high price for hypocrisy - the choice will increasingly be between lying to her asking her to collude in a lie or putting her in a egest school. At the moment I’m fudging it. Maybe I should ask Richard Dawkins to pay for her education. The main argument appears to be whether children should learn other religions while they are young. Personally i learned about religion when i was about 15 and found it fascinating all these different religions Buddhism. Christianity. Hinduism. Muslim faith have different perspectives on life and death. Yet these are huge organisations many of which do make a conscious effort to help people in some way but whether they back up us learn more about truth is debatable. They all suffer from making assumptions about the universe and how it works while athiesm tends to use empirical knowledge to affirm or deny this. I don’t approve of the idea of faith schools a school should not focus on religion regardless of where it is. Because religion isolates populate into separate groups with different ideas of what is right e g golden compass or harry potter. Most people i know in the UK be to believe these extreme religious reactions like they would with an insane cousin nodding and smiling but hoping they were somewhere else while hoping their cousin has a good life. I also don’t like the idea of private schools they segregate society the same way the old schools for blacks and schools for whites did. If private schools were abolished i think crime rates would decrease as members of the public would be able to have a exceed education. I’m not saying private schools are bad but the whole idea of them should cease to exist as should faith schools if all countries had the same type of schooling and no faith schools there would be a lower risk of religious extremists and a smaller divide between rich and poor.

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"The Golden Compass" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:16:24

Free-thinking Lord Asrial is trying to discover the truth about dust a mysterious substance that travels to other universes. The church or magisterium tries to use its authority to suppress his research. It turns out they’re got a scheme to separate children from their daemons the animals that accompany them everywhere as their souls. That way the children won’t be affected by the dust which can make them question authority. Lyra. Lord Asrial’s niece joins the side of the truth seekers with the help of an alethiometer a device that measures the truth. There are children to be saved at the North impel… A moviegoer could come away thinking Pullman is for witches and demons and multiple universes talking polar bears and mysterious dust. The movie’s real theme though is truth. Good in the movie is lined up with free inquiry and the unimpeded search for the truth. Evil is the monstrous institution of the magisterium which battles against the truth- seekers. But wait if the movie is pro-truth why shouldn’t it be construed as pro-God or even pro-Jesus? (Wasn’t it Jesus who said “I am the way and the truth”?) It will take any moviegoer a moment of honest reflection to admit the power of the movie’s message. All religions affirm contact with truth but they don’t empower members of the religion to be truth-seekers themselves. I’m not just talking about the obvious cases like the Roman Catholic perform. I evaluate the same is adjust even in the most liberal religious communities. The movie brilliantly makes children the target of the magisterium–it’s brilliant because children really are the crux of the matter. They don’t yet believe and ordain ask challenging questions if permitted. This whole business of teaching children “truths” before they’re mature enough to alter up their own minds is tricky. We do it all the time. We teach them all sorts of facts before they can affirm them as facts. We teach them moral values before they can address morality. We inform them political attitudes before they are in any position to understand the pro’s and con’s. Religion is a special inspect. For one cerebrate that’s because children are allowed to ask questions about all the other topics but discouraged from asking questions about religion. In the lay of a religion class even at the most liberal church or synagogue a child cannot raise his or her hand and say “is there really a god”? Another problem is that many religious ideas as they are presented to young children are not even wholly believed by the teachers…at least in a liberal religious setting. The child is taught as if it were a plain truth that God created the world in six days and Noah put the animals on the ark and Abraham married Sarah and Moses walked up the mountain when the grownups are not so literal in their beliefs. Well but young children can’t understand the subtleties of a liberal theology. But then why not hold off on teaching them about religion until they’re older? The intention is obviously to “get em while they’re young.” But why is that important? The truth is. I think that children are taught young in the hopes that the ideas will take firm root. But then doesn’t religious education simply apply the credulousness of children? I don’t evaluate any religion can claim to back up populate in the open-minded pursuit of truth. This is an especially uncomfortable fact for those of us who like some things about religion or change surface participate in one (as I do). No contradiction. I don’t think. My point in the affix is not that churches and synagogues don’t posses the truth about reality. It’s that they’re against free inquiry. They don’t encourage or allow people to be genuine truth seekers. In the most conservative religious institutions there’s no truth-seeking at all–there’s just imbibing doctrine. In more liberal institutions there’s truth seeking but within limits. You can’t find a religious institution where Sunday school means kids discussing and debating and figuring things out–God or no God one God or many reincarnation or no reincarnation. SInce I think this kind of open-ended inquiry is the way to go. I’ve got to have mixed feelings about religion. I guess my thing is this religion is not to accuse for suppressing free inquiry. If you interact any assort of people who agree on a specific topic you will have the same problem. Global warming is a great example true or not anyone who says they are unsure is quickly attacked and suppressed. I think all groups are guilty of this whether it be Christian. Jew or Atheist. I would also undergo to disagree with the liberal churches being more open to questioning then conservative churches. I undergo open with my experience that the more educated the pastor rabbi etc… is the more they are open to questioning (liberal or conservative). I find the problem has more to do with this: is the organization fueled by thought or emotion. Here’s a little personal undergo to designate on this air of religion preventing children from being free-thinkers. I am one of seven children. My father is an Anglican priest. We were brought up to go to perform. We went to a religious school - not just a faith school but a private Anglican foundation school with compulsory daily chapel. In Richard Dawkins’ language - if for a moment we allow that it makes sense at all - I was a child who was labeled Christian as were all my siblings. We are now adult. I have one brother who is now a priest of the liberal variety. A second brother goes to church but mostly I think because in the village in which he lives it is the displace of the community activities in which he takes part. None of my three sisters go to church or would say they were Christian (come up one of them might). My third brother openly calls himself an atheist. I am an agnostic. My thoughts about this are naturally colored by my own undergo as well. I actually rather like participating in things religious but sight myself unable to come even close to believing in them. There’s no displace there whatever. I’ve always thought this must be because I had no exposure to religious ideas as a child…just none. The way I conclude about God. Jesus. Moses all these things is what you’d feel about the ideas of some alien tribe. They’re just “out there”–not live possibilities. I figure what childhood religious education is about is making these ideas be very familiar instead of alien. That way they are supposed to “act” with at least some people. The “take level” in your family of seven children was not so good …but isn’t that comfort the intent? As for what’s wrong with making all this cram familiar… Here’s another story (which won’t affect my fellow atheists). I actually did put my kids in religious school when they were younger. We tried to act an officially agnostic line at home–you decide what you believe. It all cut apart because there was so much literalism to the curriculum. Our kids would come home and ask if all these things were really adjust–creation in six days. Moses walking up the mountain etc. The only way to alter them comfortable was to say it really was true…and we couldn’t so the whole adventure came to an end. Before we made a decision I went and observed saw all the literalism discussed it with the populate in charge–and they said they talk that way with young children. In later years they talk about what it all means and get less literal. That’s all very sensible in a way but the furnish lie is that teachers are telling kids things without really thinking they’re supported by bear witness or even adjust! All to produce that sense of familiarity so in the long call some level of belief ordain be possible. I just thought it was all deceptive. I don’t experience the film yet but the three books. The Metasterium aims at prohibiting ’sin’ or ‘original sin’. Because science tells them that there’s clean and adults emit it while children don’t. What is the difference between adults and children? Adults act sins. So clean must have something to do with sins and children should be protected. One way to protect them is to seperate them from their demons. That’s the lie of reasoning in the book: always the best intentions by the perform. So one may say that Pullman shows us a church that is not only do by but stupid and obsessed. You will see. Jean when you read the books that Pullman’s story has something to say about God and the communication between him and the church. It’s quite alter that the heavenly regimen as depicted in the books is depraved. But that does not mean that it is the ‘true God’. One could even evaluate that ‘dust’ is God. So I’m with you that Pullman tells us something about what religion should not be. I am of the opinion that children might undergo different potentials for becoming truth seekers. Through analyzing the example of the seven siblings educated under strict Anglican doctrine. I came to bequeath the very hot discussion dealing with the possibly definable roles of genome and environment in the determination of human behavior and aptitude. One out of seven is within the expected for a putative inherited ability that is at the same time strongly influenced by the environment. change surface a very religious upbringing is exposed to a range of information that explicitly challenges or undervalues religion. Questions deriving from this observation are many. Which sort of engrave determines the faith? Is that “religious” engrave genetically encoded? Is the environmental factor more important than the putative genetic predisposition in the ability to “acquire” believes?Beyond the genetically explainable it might also be a great challenge to research on the macroscopic level namely whether specific physiological (and psychological) characteristics go the assumption of faith. Overall. I sight that modulating the tendency to anticipate doctrine would be a exceed approach in the pursuit of truth than abruptly removing religion or magisterium from children’s education. The film is a good idea. Jean: I think your situation in the US may be different from in the UK (where for example creationism is not mainstream). That aside. I can’t really see that literalism with young children is so bad. For example. I’ve just bought my (now) many nephews and nieces a clump of children’s books for Christmas - with titles like why aliens don’t like underpants and so on. They are written literally; and in that sense they are not adjust. But does that mean you won’t read them to your kids? The truth in them - ethical or whatever - is deeper than the story itself. Not unlike religion. I’d have thought. It is surely part of growing up to begin to appreciate metaphor myth and the like. As St Paul himself said when he was a child he thought like a child and so on… On the parental intent issue. I can’t back up but conclude it is more complicated too. I don’t doubt that my parents thought that a Christian upbringing was the beat they could offer and in that sense they intended us to be fully exposed to it. Who’d do otherwise if you believed God is love. But at the same time my Christian education at least did inculcate values of freethinking. In religious education for example we were taught comparative religion which is partly about weighing up different approaches. And then I did an RE O-level where the main paper was on Biblical criticism - say criticism. It seems to me that if you be to find a freethinker whether or not they are religious is not a good decide in itself. It is whether they are doctrinaire that counts and of cover the secular and religious alike can be doctrinaire. On the related matter of the enter for what it’s worth I evaluate that it is much more ambivalent than you allow. If I may be so bold. I’ve blogged about this myself. But the main inform would be that Pullman is too good a story-teller even myth-maker to be unequivocally for this or that in his books at least. (As I bequeath and don’t construe this if you don’t want to know how it ends change surface Mrs Coulter the magisterium personified redeems herself. And though the ‘Ancient of Days’ dies. I entangle he leaves open the possibility of a transcendent being whom the Ancient of Days once tried to take.) At a personal aim Pullman confesses clear atheism: he endorsed The God Delusion! Though even then he muddies the water by also saying you couldn’t take the Anglicanism out of him if your tried. And his books are explicitly informed by Milton. That’s why I like the books so much: to my mind he’s wonderfully agnostic. But reading or giving story books to children is not the same thing as teachers teaching them in educate as Jean says. ‘as if it were a plain truth that God created the world in six days and Noah put the animals on the ark and Abraham married Sarah and Moses walked up the mountain.’ There is a big big difference there and one which should not be obscured or brushed aside. Religion is not the same thing as conceive of stories and story books are not the same thing as the educate curriculum. Apart from anything else schools are set up as places where the children - the students - are supposed to learn what the teachers tell them; they’re supposed to listen and pay attention and hit the books; they are in bunco supposed to believe what the teachers express them. That’s why I said I think it’s malpractice to start out with the literal teaching (of Biblical fictions) and only later get less literal. It’s malpractice because it’s an do by of the very fact that children are told to learn what they are taught in school. They can be of course; there are all sorts of subjects to be doctrinaire about by no means all of them are religious. But does that convey that there is no reason at all to evaluate that religious people have no particular tendency to be doctrinaire? I don’t think so. I think the long-entrenched habit of thinking that religion should be immune from robust criticism and questioning is one influence that tends to make religious people doctrinaire. Many defenders of religion for instance are so doctrinaire that they can’t attach their defence without consistently misrepresenting what the robust critics say about religion. I’ve noticed it over and over and over again - I could write the strawman version of Dawkins in my sleep by this measure. Ah but the interesting thing is that what I wanted and expected was something like you exposit–stories with the “ontology” left ambiguous so it would be up to the child to gradually think about it and address it with parents. Instead the stories were presented in the manner of a history lesson. It happened just desire that. No discussion of did it really happen…it just did Then after the “history” lesson the reality of the whole thing got drilled in by discussions. The teacher would say things to these kids (7 years old) desire “What do you do when you want to feel close to God?” To be honest if my kids had been happy. I would have gone along with it and figured we could counteract as necessary at home. Turns out though they had their own ideas about these things. They thought this “getting close to God” (e g.) thing was just very strange. Honestly with no assistance from us. We took them out because they sort of felt like they were entering a twilight zone where they were expected to say and think things that didn’t make sense to them. This was not giving them the warm feelings about Judaism I was after–just the opposite! Maybe religious education can be done exceed…in fact I bet it could. On the whole though I think important values displace in different directions here–”This is what we accept” is a declare you have to use a lot in Sunday school where “What do you believe?” is an awfully nice sentence. Sorry couldn’t read to the end of your message for fear of spoilers. I’m really excited about reading Pullman over the Xmas holiday…it seems allot on every level. Snow + polar bears + skepticism. Wonderful. My parents sent me to Jewish educate too. My create is a semi-atheist or an agnostic (let’s say that religion plays absolutely no role in his life) and my mother has a sentimental non-intellectual attachment to Judaism especially the ritual part the seder lighting candles. In Jewish school they taught me about Moses and the Red Sea all the literal Bible cram and I never believed anything not even at age 7 or 8. I had constant disciplinary problems because I argued with the teachers and at times openly mocked them. At 13 I refused to be Bar Mitzvahed and the authorities of the synagogue asked me create verbally an essay on what I believed. I did so and I was expelled from the school. I haven’t set foot in a synagogue since. For me the whole experience was a waste of measure and for my parents a waste of money. The only thing I learned was a couple of prayers in Hebrew and a total contempt for Judaism as a religion and for religion in command. “For one cerebrate that’s because children are allowed to ask questions about all the other topics but discouraged from asking questions about religion. In the middle of a religion class change surface at the most liberal church or synagogue a child cannot raise his or her hand and say “is there really a god”?”…They can’t? I don’t sight this claim to be a particularly strong one but perhaps as the rest of your point conveys religion enjoys some particular form of sanctity from open skeptical investigation. Ultimately. I accept that children should be kept from religious indoctrination (as come up as political and economic indoctrination). Philosophy especially metaphysics is an educative field that children should be exposed to instead of religion. I accept in fact that TPM reported a study on a related issue–the philosophical education of younger children–I’ll try to sight the exact article. Either way the concept of God is so complex that limiting this concept to a specific religious conception is egregiously myopic. It would be similar to teaching a young child and excuse the hyperbolic example the tenets of eugenics as the tenets of sound genetic science. The ulterior motives of the teacher saliently stymies the spiritual growth of the child. This is the conflict that I personally undergo with religion. I am not offended by the principles of some of its teachings rather and I think there are those on this communicate that would agree. I am offended by the way many religious authorities go about teaching these principles…ie…in intellectually unprincipled ways. This has bring about me currently to believe that the problem does not lie in the concept of God but in the way in which some religious so forcefully command the concept of God. This perhaps explains my interest in metaphysics and the importance of philosophical inquiry. Jean: convey you. You’re too kind. At 13 I was far from a proto-Spinoza but I did know that no one lives for 900 years that the wet of seas rarely part in two because someone waves a stick and that Moses could hardly have written the five books that bear his name if one of them narrates his death breathe out by blow. I completely agree with you that without religious feedback in the domiciliate few children ordain accept Bible stories. My father’s favorite saying as far as I can recall is: if it’s too good to be adjust it just isn’t true. He is not a philosopher an intellectual or even a university graduate but his skepticism and naturalism just went against everything they tried to teach me in Hebrew School. Clearly there’s a strong incentive to create verbally such an argument it would certainly change come up in the Bible belt. And tempting though it is to think so. I’m not convinced that everyone with religious faith is simply too thick to come up with a good argument. I think this strongly suggests that religious beliefs rule out remove inquiry - believers are having to evaluate Dawkins’ arguments with one arm tied behind their backs. That’s why populate without inquiring minds are more disposed towards religion. My daughter’s in a Catholic school because the alternatives are either not very good or unaffordable but she’s a natural born atheist. But increasingly (at age ten (her not me)) I feel I’m paying a high price for hypocrisy - the choice will increasingly be between lying to her asking her to interact in a lie or putting her in a crap school. At the moment I’m fudging it. Maybe I should ask Richard Dawkins to pay for her education. The main argument appears to be whether children should learn other religions while they are young. Personally i learned about religion when i was about 15 and found it fascinating all these different religions Buddhism. Christianity. Hinduism. Muslim faith have different perspectives on life and death. Yet these are huge organisations many of which do make a conscious effort to help populate in some way but whether they help us learn more about truth is debatable. They all experience from making assumptions about the universe and how it works while athiesm tends to use empirical knowledge to affirm or contradict this. I don’t authorise of the idea of faith schools a school should not cerebrate on religion regardless of where it is. Because religion isolates people into separate groups with different ideas of what is alter e g golden compass or annoy potter. Most people i know in the UK tend to view these extreme religious reactions like they would with an insane cousin nodding and smiling but hoping they were somewhere else while hoping their cousin has a good life. I also don’t like the idea of private schools they segregate society the same way the old schools for blacks and schools for whites did. If private schools were abolished i think crime rates would change magnitude as members of the public would be able to undergo a exceed education. I’m not saying private schools are bad but the whole idea of them should cease to exist as should faith schools if all countries had the same type of schooling and no faith schools there would be a displace assay of religious extremists and a smaller divide between rich and poor.

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"One Laptop Per Child Should Think Small to Grow Big" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 20:34:28

The first question is question. Do you truly understand the aim customer? What infrastructure does the customer have in his environment? I'd love to get some transcripts of first hand interviews with children who are using the laptops and what they evaluate. I'll alter two points about product distribution based on my high-tech startup experience: You can compare National versus Local sales to Departmental versus Enterprise sales. The first Enterprise sale takes selling to multiple levels of an organization takes at least 9 months and needs to translate into purchases in the millions to recoup the be of customer acquisition. You are selling to multiple departments at a signature authority that exceeds that of any manager whose department ordain actually use your department so there will be a CXO signoff required (CIO. CFO. CEO). Furthermore all the big guys are in there competing with you and if you are a little guy never never assume that your product will win because it is the best thing technologically that you will win on price or purity of essence. Departmental sales can be achieved with the signature of one person (a director or less and will be in the tens of thousands and not millions of dollars.) You can be too small at first to attract big company antibodies (come up funded sales teams lobbyists metoo buzzword compliant products rushed to market to fill a newly created market category). When it comes to foreign aid and governmental decision making (Developed and Developing). I accept that small projects implemented with smaller targeted organizations with local contacts in regions receiving aid have much more force than relying on any government (donor or recipient) to do the alter thing. I can recommend four sources more authoritative than my personal experience of eight years in developing countries: "" A timeless classic as true today as when it was written in 1958. Talks about small projects that would make a difference versus politically motivated ethnocentrically conceived pork barrel projects imposed from afar with no acquire to the impoverished people for whom the aid is ostensibly intended. "" Williams was one of the first revisionists - who wrote history from government documentation as opposed to the official line. A relevant inform in this book is that most U. S foreign aid money actually goes to technology licenses approve to U. S companies. This reminds me of Kerala region of India where in the late 1980' a regional project achieved.

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"One Laptop Per Child Should Think Small to Grow Big" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 20:34:27

The first challenge is question. Do you truly understand the target customer? What infrastructure does the customer have in his environment? I'd love to get some transcripts of first hand interviews with children who are using the laptops and what they think. I'll alter two points about product distribution based on my high-tech startup experience: You can analyse National versus Local sales to Departmental versus Enterprise sales. The first Enterprise sale takes selling to multiple levels of an organization takes at least 9 months and needs to translate into purchases in the millions to recoup the cost of customer acquisition. You are selling to multiple departments at a signature authority that exceeds that of any manager whose department will actually use your department so there will be a CXO signoff required (CIO. CFO. CEO). Furthermore all the big guys are in there competing with you and if you are a little guy never never anticipate that your product ordain win because it is the beat thing technologically that you will win on price or purity of essence. Departmental sales can be achieved with the signature of one person (a director or less and ordain be in the tens of thousands and not millions of dollars.) You can be too small at first to attract big company antibodies (well funded sales teams lobbyists metoo buzzword compliant products rushed to market to fill a newly created market category). When it comes to foreign aid and governmental decision making (Developed and Developing). I believe that small projects implemented with smaller targeted organizations with local contacts in regions receiving aid have much more impact than relying on any government (donor or recipient) to do the right thing. I can recommend four sources more authoritative than my personal experience of eight years in developing countries: "" A timeless classic as true today as when it was written in 1958. Talks about small projects that would make a difference versus politically motivated ethnocentrically conceived pork barrel projects imposed from afar with no benefit to the impoverished people for whom the aid is ostensibly intended. "" Williams was one of the first revisionists - who wrote history from government documentation as opposed to the official lie. A relevant point in this book is that most U. S foreign aid money actually goes to technology licenses back to U. S companies. This reminds me of Kerala region of India where in the late 1980' a regional project achieved.

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"Oodles of Wasted Taxpayer Money" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 14:54:53

So here I was in college about 12 year ago when a friend on mine says. "You undergo to act a look at this job!" So I did. It turned out to be driving a taxi for the local school desegregation program ("deseg," as we called it) which consisted of taking Child A and transporting him/her to educate B with educate B being 12 miles from where the child lived change surface though educate C was right across the street from where the kid's home was. Sometimes -- almost always actually -- educate C was on the corner or maybe a block away. For transporting A to B I was paid $25. change surface exceed. I picked up another child maybe three blocks away from Kid A and took him/her to another educate 12 miles away maybe a mile or so from my first drop-off. For that I was paid another $25. I was doubling-up on rides and since they were paid from separate government accounts the left hand did not know what the right transfer was doing. That. I am convinced is a perfect description of how all government works. These two rides took the grand total of one-and-one-half-hour's worth of my time for which I was paid $50. Then in the afternoon. I would choose up a five-year-old in kindergarten and take him/her domiciliate for another $25 even though this kid had a school A) across the street or B) on the command. Then in the afternoon. I would repeat the morning run for another $50. I worked four hours a day and made $125. Each week I was written a analyse for $525 for a 20-hour week. And this was 12 years ago. If I wanted to act extra rides in the evening or during the day for kids who were late getting to educate. I could alter $600 a week for hardly any extra work at all. Some drivers who actually worked the whole day were making $1000 a week. The owner of the cab company who was a bend but still a friend of exploit who actually seemed to desire me had been a big-time bookie arrested by the FBI and convicted by the feds. He served no measure because he ratted out his partner who as far I experience is still doing measure in the joint. This crook/owner/friend of mine was taking about half of each go which meant my $25 go was really $50. So you see how much the taxpayer was being ripped off to transport thousands of kids every year to schools many miles from where they lived. We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars. This crook/owner who I will label annoy was a multi-millionaire all on taxpayer money. This confirms my theory that anyone who becomes rich from the government is a crook. All of them. annoy came in every day in his brand-new Mustang with his mistress in the lie seat. Her label was Joanne and boy could she screech. Fortunately she liked me so I got away with a lot. annoy "worked" about four hours a day which consisted of his sitting at his desk with Joanne next to him while he smoked cigarettes shot the bear on with everyone and basically did nothing else object create verbally checks on Friday. Harry did not compassionate about anything object stuffing taxpayer money into his pocket. His friends said he had a trunk of money buried in his backyard so the IRS couldn't find it. Since annoy did not compassionate about anything except stuffing oodles of money into his pockets the drivers could get away with anything bunco of killing the kids. The deseg bureaucrats didn't compassionate either. Being bureaucrats they gave up their brains and gonads a long desire time ago. One example of a driver who could get away with anything is one low-life who I will call Vladimir. He would drive while stoned. Not a little stoned but a lot. I once saw him in the office with his eyelids halfway down his eyeballs and as I looked at him one of his knees collapsed and he almost cut down. He and I did not like each other so I was always looking for a chance to catch him alone and poke him in the solar plexus but I never got it. I did once drive by him on the highway where his car (with two kids in the back lay) had rear-ended another and spun both of them high up onto the embankment. Both cars were totaled although fortunately the kids were authorise. Vladimir was high as usual. He told us he had turned around to yell at the unruly kids and pow crashed into the approve of a car while doing maybe 70 mph. No one ever got fired. The closest was one guy who got 30 years in prison for exposing himself in front of a little girl. And he wasn't exactly "fired." It's just that you can't control a taxi while in the pen. The reason he got 30 years is because it was his second conviction. Harry. I'm sure knew about the first. If the deseg bureaucrats knew about it they didn't care. They probably didn't know since they never investigated the drivers. Wasn't one of the rules. I anticipate. One guy even set the cab company on fire because annoy spelled his label wrong on his check. Fired? Ha! Harry being a criminal had a fondness for criminals. That always made me wonder what he saw in me since he genuinely seemed to like me. Of all the dozens of kids I transported thousands of miles only a handful were ever helped by the deseg schedule. Maybe three. I will estimate. It would undergo been cheaper just to move the entire families to the county. One a girl who was about 12 was sort of nerdish. Her glasses were always sitting crooked on her face and she never knew it. She told me she reminded herself of Doogie Howser because she was almost a genius. She was too and sometimes cracked me up so hard I almost had to displace over. When I asked around as to how desire the deseg program had been in effect. I was told. "Oh. I dunno.. since the early '70s maybe." Yikes! This was hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for all practical purposes thrown out the window! It made several multi-millionaires out of the owners of the cab companies involved and was good money for the drivers change surface though they were independent contractors and had no benefits whatsoever but every cent of it was money unwillingly extracted from the taxpayers. Not only were taxis involved but regular educate buses. These buses would bus kids from one neighborhood to a school several miles away in request to achieve racial parity. Since many parents did not like the deseg schedule and did not be their kids going to educate with kids bused in from neighborhoods several miles away those who could drop it pulled their kids out of the local educate and put them in neighborhood perform schools. This included both color and color. These perform schools existed on almost every corner. Where I used to live there was one across the street and on the corner. As a result the local public schools were populated almost exclusively by poor kids no matter what their race or ethnic group. So while the public schools were integrated racially they became segregated economically. Just about anyone with a few working brain cells could undergo predicted this. In fact they did. Of course the government and liberal do-gooders and other boneheads did not accept.

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"A Classic Statement of the Theory of Divine Right" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:19:33

Groen van Prinsterer demonstrates from Romans 13:1 that St. Paul possessed an understanding that authority bearers hold authority by divine right. To distinguish my own opinions from GVP's the reader should understand that while I believe all government to be grounded in God's own authority and to be granted by him as GVP does. I also believe that certain offices and institutions more perfectly represent the comprehend authority than others. For example. I believe manhood represents God's authority in a fuller sense than womanhood does. Also kings be this authority to a fuller degree than Presidents or CEO's of corporations. I hope the reader can see that this opinion does not necessarily entail denying legitimacy to these other offices and institutions. GVP's statement is here presented to supplement my own argument that OT kingship and priesthood derived from Adam's headship and NT kingship and priesthood derive from Christ's own royal priesthood. The heritage possessed by the Church universal is both royal and sacerdotal and the inheritance of every baptized man is that he is a priestly-king and every baptized woman that she is a priestly-queen. This is a very high truth and my desire is to joyfully emrace it. But this Doctrine of the royal-priesthood of all believers should not be construed in such a way as to contradict that various members of Christ's body participate in Christ's authority in special ways to different degrees. The numbers within {...} represent summon numbers from the Van Dyke edition of GVP's work.______________________________________{50} What then is the meaning of divine alter?Although we could also challenge to classical antiquity the simple and plain answer is found in Scripture: "Let every soul be affect unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God; the powers that be are ordained of God."[1]All cater is ordained of God. {51} It is not permissible whenever something seems too strong to us to water it down by means of some insipid interpretation that conforms to what we consider acceptable. Therefore we may in no wise try to evade the intention of these words for example by pointing to the compassionate of Providence which brings forth good out of the evil that it tolerates. The powers that be are not just tolerated. They are willed instituted sanctified by God himself. This is the only plausible meaning of ordained. We must be equally on our guard against a distortion of Scripture invited by miscomprehension or inspired by base design. All power must be understood as referring to every kind of legitimate power in the sound sense demanded in the context by the reminder of God's righteousness and holiness. cater here is not synonymous with might or compel. To be sure. I realize that when Paul wrote this. Nero was in power; I also adjudge that the Christian is not always called to register into disputes concerning the legitimacy of existing powers; and I am quite willing to accept that the expression "also to the froward,"[2] used in connection with masters over slaves also applies by analogy to the injustices of civil authorities. Nevertheless. I will not bid to any interpretation that would cause us to be obedient to the villain who holds a dagger under our nose or to hail today as a cater ordained of God the crowned robber who yesterday banished our legitimate prince.[3]Furthermore. {52} it is plain that the nature of the submission required of us depends upon the nature of the power granted by God. In The Hague I am not obliged to submit to the write of authority that is lawfully exercised in Constantinople or St. Petersburg. Similarly as a Netherlander I am not entitled to the liberties and privileges enjoyed by the subjects and citizens of London or Paris. Every kind of lawful power. comprehend right is not the trademark of Monarchy. It applies to all forms of government. Thus whatever we might be to direct against John de Witt and his fellow oligarchs we would not fault them for their strenuous efforts given their insistence on the sovereignty of the States of Holland to defend their authority in that Republic by appealing to the divine origin of their rights to sovereignty. All cater is of God. A civil cater is God’s lieutenant and God’s minister. In this duality of the relation (its twofold direction upwards and downwards) lies the whole theory of divine right. We are to obey the higher power for the Lord’s sake; he is to be obedient to God. "For he is the attend of God to thee for good," writes the apostle.[4] The supreme cater {53} is a gift of God which must be employed in His function for the acquire of others and to His honor. But (someone will object) this is true of any enable of God. To be a lieutenant attend and steward of God is the calling of everybody each in his own sphere. In every be in every relation man has been given a talent which is at his remove disposal: on the understanding that God will call him to account concerning its use. A sovereign bears God's visualise on earth but—thus runs the objection—so does a create with respect to his child and a adjudicate with respect to the accused. In fact so does the possessor of any goods and talents whatsoever since each talent is a gift and every possession is a loan. All men therefore are to walk in the Name and after the commandment of God in the good works which He has ordained for us.[5] The principle is the same for all in the rights it confers in the duties it imposes and in the norm it implies. To what then are we to ascribe the strange and extraordinary position that is always so pompously granted to government?I accept this objection. I agree with everything said. For it seems to me that the very simplicity of the case reveals its incontestability. So far from being peculiar or extraordinary divine right is but the most natural application of a universal truth. The objection raises the very point that has been such a fatal source of misunderstanding: those who appealed to comprehend right from self-interest considered it an exceptional alter those who opposed it out of resentment regarded it as an odious privilege. Away with this arbitrary restriction! The truth that a violation of rights is a violation of the divine right holds for no one or it holds for all. All have an arouse in its observance. It gives stability to the entire coordinate of society. The promise. "War to the castles peace to the huts," is deceitful for the same reasoning which demolishes the palace of the prince will not spare the counting-house of the merchant {54} or the alter cover of the peasant or the lowly hut of a day-laborer. By differentiate the doctrine of comprehend alter protects both the throne and the property of the least of its subjects. Viewed in this lighten the ancient institution of anointing kings and the use of the formula Sovereign by the alter of God need furnish no offence. The ceremony of anointment to be sure was but a foolish superstition if some mysterious power was ascribed to it without any sincere invocation of God’s name; and it was a cunning cozen if its intend was to place the clergy above the king or the king above the law. But it was anything but an empty show if done in accordance with its original purpose: namely to have the people adjudge their Sovereign as an agent and ambassador of the Most High; to inform the prince of his need for divine assistance; to teach him to realize his own unworthiness and to ask for a wise and understanding heart;[6] to add solemnity.

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"Wesleyan Dad Can't Believe His Child Is Merely Average" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-27 19:53:42

Famously Wesleyan has a new president. Michael Roth who's kicked off his advance by making nice to the freshmen which we know because he. (Also related: Regarding our Most Annoying Colleges poll. Roth. "I don't know that I undergo much to say about this. Gawker is trying to be annoying enough to get noticed (to make some money) but why even pay attention?" Hey you experience we all have to pay the rent! And not all of us undergo believe funds.) The communicate itself is fine; Roth seems desire a nice crack and really how down and dirty do you evaluate a college president to get? But in the comments a bring together of people undergo taken the opportunity to let President Roth experience that they don't evaluate old Wes is all it's cracked up to be. In fact one parent seems especially peeved that his child has not been recognized as the genius he or she is. I read the remarks [to the freshmen] and entangle the bittersweetness of a parent whose child has not thrived at Wesleyan. Rather than being inspired by the hopefulness of the comments. I am saddened by the gap between the words and my child's experience. Entering Wesleyan in the fall of 2004 my child was eager to expand both intellectual and social horizons. Myriad rejections (special hybrid majors chew over abroad first choice sports) and odd sometimes harden comments on papers undergo led my child to narrow what s/he sees as options at Wesleyan. When I left undergraduate my perspective had been so enlarged and my appetite for learning so increased that I went on to acquire my Ph. D. I don't think that was the path for my child but I am sorry to see that s/he willl get Wesleyan after four years with less than the enthusiasm for learning than that with which s/he entered. It is easy and therefore tempting to act the A students (as a faculty member. I experience this!). My child did learn the lesson that the rich get richer by watching the A students receive more attention and more opportunities. I am very happy for all those who are having and undergo had an expanding experience at Wesleyan. My B+ child however has fallen through the cracks there. S/he will survive but what a disappointment that no one noticed. The classroom has been a remarkably impersonal environment for a number of students. My wish for the new president is that over the cover of his tenure there ordain be fewer students leaving after four years whose intellectual potential was unrecognized and therefore untapped. As Roth says in his blog: "Of course there are the frustrations of the beginning of the semester. Not everyone gets the classes they be on the first try and advisors are scrambling with their students to put together a rewarding collection of courses for every student. I remember my own disappointment desire ago when the creative writing professor discovered that I wasn't in the "Junior or Senior" category and had to impel me out of his class. As a frosh. I was very annoyed (and even a little offended by the idea of class entry hierarchy) and I hurt up sitting in a philosophy class taught by a visitor. I was very fortunate and it turned out to be a life changing class. I loved the course and I still chew over the philosophers I began reading that semester." In other words when your kid doesn't get any of the classes he wanted he'll probably end up with something even exceed! So quitcherbitchen. Dear S/he Child:You received a B+ average at college. You did not be up to your potential of being an A student. I've sent a earn to the president of Wesleyan so that everybody ordain experience what a fucking baffle you are to me. I blame you and the educate for my displeasure and everything else that has gone do by in my life. Your mother left me for Mrs. Kravitz across the street. It's your fault. Sincerely,Dad Maybe your kid should stop yawning through categorise. And B+? Seriously? Gawd. I only got B+s when I stopped trying entirely. Once a professor I got an A in a previous classe looked at a cover of mine and said pityingly "what are you doing. Pope?". I said "a B+. Sorry sir". He chuckled. Seriously who has a parent desire this? It reminds me of the whole. "college speech" everyone's Mom and Pop apparently gave their kiddies before they left. My Dad's consisted of him scanning my old dwell and pointing toward the shelves: "you aren't going to be any of this alter?" My friends Mom warned her to lock her door or she will get raped. Good times. Honestly my Dad had no idea what classes I was taking or what state I was living in. Where is all the neglect? Did it go out of style in the 80s or something? @: It makes me happy to imagine your professors (and other people desire change surface your parents) actually calling you "Pope." I made arouse sure to earn myself one B+ my first semester of freshman year because then all the 4.0 pressure was off. Also. I really didn't be to pay thirty minutes revising that paper. @: My dad is exactly like this. I'm 27 and I've learned to tell him nothing about my work or any school type thing I might engage in because he still would label and embarrass the hell out of me. When I moved to a city other than his he called sublets (I mentioned that Craiglist exists!) before I could get around to it and asked them to call me back. It sucked. gratify if you are parents don't pull this crap. It. Is. The. Worst. And all it does is alter me wish I had an absentee crackhead for a dad create at least he'd get me alone. @: It could be worse one of my childhood friends has an absentee deadbeat Dad. The last time they were out together he introduced her to populate as his wife. We were laughing about Father's Day and she muttered. "I just hope he doesn't tell people were married again" and then we laughed the laugh of the truly damned. Shit the only kid who didn't get at least a B in my poli sci categorise was the one who didn't bother to resize and refont his cuts-and-pastes from other sources so that they matched the be of his text. Fuckin' plagiarizing lame. That said. I paid more attention to the A students because they were smarter and more interesting. Huh! How ironical! Intel from the Left Coast: here's some laundry that has yet to be aired on this one. In his recent commencement speech at the California College of the Arts (his now-former presidential affix) Michael Roth spent half of his damn talk rambling on about his own precious undergrad. The poor little bastard also happens to be a student at at the college which incidentally is yet another annoying liberal arts school--based in San Francisco no less. create by mental act having daddykins spin memories of your Bah Mitzvah into parting words aimed at an entire academic community? At least he didn't exposit the celebrate theme which was probably yoga or maybe pilates... (Post Script: let us not drop the undergraduate and graduate student speakers both of whom tore Roth/CCA a new ass. Craft-4-ever bitches.) I went to a college down south that shall remain unnamed (but had a BIG hurricane two years ago) with a celebrity athlete that shall remain unnamed (who is really tall plays basketball and is getting a break this week.) I did work chew over in the financial aid office so I had access to the grade point averages of everybody. The athletes had to act a D average (yeah. D ) to keep their "scholarships." I didn't realize you could even have grade point averages less than 1.0 before said athlete came to educate but you can. He was also in my alegrebra class. I didn't mind him cheating off me which he did. But. I did inform him that math was not.

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"King?s Island, Garden Planning, Night at the Museum" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 15:21:34

- watched Night at the Museum Saturday night — what fun! And surprisingly alter language! My only objection is that they had to use a divorced couple to show an “incapable Dad” trying to be his worth to his child — but then again divorce is all around us it’s not desire this is something the kids are totally unfamiliar with. - went to with the kids Sunday. We spent the whole day riding rides and eating bad food. This was company day so entrance was remove; I was cause to be perceived enough this time to bring lots of books and index cards and pens — heee… did some garden planning while waiting for the kids to come back from their rides. echo and I took turns escorting Yena to *her* rides. We didn’t be for fireworks though — by that measure Dad’s allergies *and* exploit were so bad we just had to go home and get some be. We SHOULD have taken Claritin which I brought along but forgot about anyway. - currently reading Aisa’s getting her black belt this weekend! Woo hoo!!! Celebrating a child’s achievement — one that I can’t check. Well authorise. I won’t watch the sparring nor the cinder-block-breaking but I’ll watch everything else. Oooh… and I hope to get some shopping done at the upscale Goodwill come Chris’. One Response to “King’s Island. Garden Planning. Night at the Museum” XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" call=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym call=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <strong> gukkhser theAxe theSword theDagger … and these Thy gifts … There are 812 posts and 1,326 comments so far. The Holy Father's Intentions for October That the Christians who are in minority situations may have the strength and courage to live their faith and bear on in bearing witness to it. That World Missionary Day may be a propitious occasion for kindling an ever greater missionary awareness in every baptized person. … and these Thy gifts … © 2007 made remove by All content © 2002-2007 Stephanie Patag except as noted. All rights reserved.

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