:*Speaking of injured horses. Furioso Star (lung infection) a horse not on our DL will make his return to the races in Friday's seventh go at Hollywood. Trained by Bill Spawr he finished eighth in his most recent start (July 21. Del Mar). Furioso Star earned a 94 Beyer Speed Figure two starts back when winning his maiden at Santa Anita.*A. P. Indy ordain get some nice mares in 2008. Both Balance and Pool Land have been retired from racing and will be bred to A. P. Indy. Here are their lifetime past performances:
*First-time starter Kearns inform is scheduled to make his career debut at Hollywood on Saturday for trainer Brian Koriner. According to Brad Free in Saturday's
.. Re new sires-I think Cactus Ridge and Flatter both show promise... Mike SoperThanks for reminding me about Flatter. Mike. I'm a big fan of this son of A. P. Indy. act an eye on these two promising juveniles by Flatter: Mad Flatter won his maiden in his second lifetime start at Churchill Downs with an 82 Beyer. Indy's Alexandra will try to make it 3-3 in Saturday's Three Ring Stakes at Calder.
Given that Street Sense would be one of the first sons of Street Cry to retire to stud what do you think that the chances of him doing well are? I personally think that Hard Spun would be a better sire but you never know... ChaseStreet Sense should be okay. He was precocious enough to win his second go away at two going short and his accomplishments in the Breeders' Cup and Kentucky Derby speak for themselves. He has a successful sire (Mr. Greeley) in his female family and figures to be bred to strong mares. Hard Spun is from the family of Little Current and Chateaugay and should do well at stud as a son of Danzig with miler speed.
How do you think Giacomo will do as a sire with Adena Springs behind him?? He's in tough being in the same group as Bernardini and Bluegrass Cat perhaps an unfashionable pedigree but as someone who cashed in big(just because I was a huge Holy Bull fan and I loved Giacomos run in the Hol Fut.) on Derby day. I would love to see another KY stallion by Holy Bull be sucessful along with Macho Uno stephanieIf he doesn't work out as a stallion it won't be for lack of trying. Frank Stronach will give him every chance to be a good stallion at Adena Springs. I'm just not convinced that he's a good fit in today's speed-crazy market. He should inject much-needed stamina into a pedigree but he wasn't very precocious and was a bit of a plodder. There is tons of European cover and hold influences in his female family so perhaps he'll be a sleeper as a turf sire. ***
Curious in Dan or anyone else's thoughts on this. Is this just the Brits being the proud horseplayers that they are or could something have been amiss? It does not add up and you have to feel for the horse and the connections. I don't think its a stretch to say that on his best day. DT would give esteem Moon all that he could handle and then some svhill
I don't think there's anything nefarious going on here. Rules are rules in Japan and I evaluate that the JRA should be applauded for not having two sets (one for the stars and one for everyone else). The horse didn't test contradict for EVA and thus wasn't allowed to participate in the race. I don't think the Japanese were afraid of Dylan Thomas and I don't think the horses that will line up against him in the Hong Kong Vase are shaking in their shoes either. He's a very good horse. You can't question his accomplishments. But is he really the best horse in the world? Was he even the best horse in Europe this year? Manduro beat him in the Prince of Wales's Stakes earlier in the year and he might have been Europe's best before being injured. Dylan Thomas looked desire a beaten horse turning for home in the Irish Champion Stakes before roaring back to beat stablemates Duke Of Marmalade (1-9 lifetime) and Red Rock Canyon (still a maiden after 11 starts!!!). Then he staggers like a drunken sailor in the be of the Arc and is all-out to hold off 66-1 shot Youmzain. accuse the soggy turf conditions all you want in the BC but doesn't the best cater in the world at least finish third in the Turf?I don't know why I'm so anti-Dylan Thomas (I picked him in the Arc on this blog - perhaps my last winner) but his victory that day just rubbed me the wrong way:
I don't want Dylan Thomas at a short price. I'll use him in multi-race wagers but let him beat me in the win share. I just wasn't impressed with his Arc win. He drifted ten paths in the stretch and almost got defeat by a huge assail. Now he's being asked to come back in three weeks after being shipped halfway across the planet and he has to win the Turf on less-than-ideal footing.
.. Even though I love to hit the books horse pedigrees and thoughtfully apply them,How do you measure heart? Nice to see everyone's comments. SR VegasDidn't SV Vegas bring up heart? Considering the absolutely fierce heart and determination that Hard Spun. Street Sense and Curlin displayed throughout this year is that something that can be passed through to progeny-or is it a crap shoot?Sun GIt's impossible to define heart or class but you sure can see it on the racetrack. Affirmed showed heart when he defeat back Alydar every step of the way in the Belmont. "Heart" is courage intestinal fortitude and the indomitable will to win despite adversity. You can't put a speed figure or pace number on it but astute breeders will send their mares to stallions that showed that quality on the track. It certainly can't hurt. Can "heart" be passed on from generation to generation? That's tough to say. The stallion is only part of the genetic equation. What if the mare had a tendency to quit? Can heart overcome an inadequate conformation or simply a weak pedigree? I don't know the answers to these questions or whether any of the mysteries of breeding racehorses have answers. I'd rather breed to a stallion that showed courage than to one that may not have wanted it as much.
***Can anyone give some background information on Benjamin C. Warren? He consistently names his horses after himself and employs Jorge Gutierrez who has a very low win percentage. Often uses Jose Valdivia. Brice Blanc. Corey Nakatani as jocks. Does anyone have his stats as an owner and win percentage? Seems like over other soCal go has a Warren's (INSERT ANOTHER WORD HERE) but his horses rarely win!PPAccording to our database his lifetime record as an owner stands at 74-824 (9%. $1.29 ROI).***
*Tropical Turf: Host. Magic Mecke. Minister's Joy. Giant Wrecker*What a Pleasure: analyse It Twice. Coal Play. Victory Cafe (2yo by Victory Gallop seeks third straight*My Charmer: J'ray (despite the fact she's starting to remind me of Cosmonaut and Sun King)*adorn of Roses: hold back System. More Angels. Karakorum Starlet*Three Ring: Indy's Alexandra (think this daughter of Flatter is the real deal)More importantly who do you desire this weekend? I'd like to know.
Heart the will the courage to win no matter what the odds and pedigree go hand in transfer to make the adjust back and from tbheritage com here’s what Federico Tesio who owned Nearco had to say about his champion who was undefeated in 14 starts:
NEARCO (br c. 1935 out of Nogara by Havresac II) was bred in Italy and owned by Federico Tesio. It is said that Tesio tried to get his mare to Fairway but Lord Derby refused to grant a season so Nogara went to his full brother Pharos instead. Undisputed champion of his crop at two and three in Italy. Nearco's final start was in France in the Grand Prix de Paris which he won in demonstrative style capping an unblemished career of fourteen starts. Tesio recognized that his champion was not a true stayer but owned such electrifying brilliance and nervous energy that his class and heart carried him beyond his physical limits.
Stephanie-The X-factor (the extra large heart) is passed throught the female line. The colts can get it from their dams but can only pass it to their daughters. For whatever reason their colts can't get it. The mares however can pass it to both sexes. That is why Secretariat was not an excellent sire (admittedly he wasn't bad but after his racing career no one's going to consider it "great") but he was a phenomonal broodmare sire because his daughters could pass on the X factor.
CRC8 MyChrmrH-G3 (9f T 3upF&M): #9 Fantastic Shirl (ML:4/1) -> has lost to several of the exceed turf fillies this year - none with the exception of likely fav. #11 J'ray are here today. Last 4th place effort a product of yielding turf and a slow pace. A tell of the NbldmslH 2nd place to DanceAwayCapote the prior race should be enough to win today... (WP#9; P4:#2,#9,#11)
CRC9 ThreeRing100K (8.5f 2yoFil): #5 Silk continue -> hopefully #6 Ariel Bright won't battle too hard for the lead. All the others in the race are closers - but Dan will include "Illman's real deal" #1 Indy's Alexandra in my P4 book since I trust (foolishly??) you... (WP#5; P4:#1,#5)
CRC10 WhatAPlesr100K (8.5f 2yo): #5 Coal Play (ML:9/5) -> Broke maiden at 8f and bred for even more added distance. Why isn't Wise Answer running in this race? (WP#5; P4:#3,#5)
CRC11 TropTrfH-G3 (9f T 3up): #2 Minister's Joy (ML:12/1) -> it bothers me that the famous "psychiatric handicapper" Mike Watchmaker picks him also.. but as Watchmaker himself would likely tell you from his 'homemade' poly-pedigree stats the KEE poly 7th place finish in the Fayette can be excused.:-) 9f appears to be Minister Joy's ideal distance on the turf and perhaps is now 0.5-1.0f too desire for #1 Host? #6 Go Between on the other hand may want to return to poly for more Graded stakes wins. (WP#2; P4: #1,#2,#6)
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Lou took me to Laurel in college in 1969 for my first move to the track. He worked summers at Monmouth. He's had every job at the track from valet park to racing secretary. He's been a trainer owner. GM racing secretary etc. I don't think any racing executive has more experience and perspective.
As most commentary has acknowledged. Magna has once again demonstrated a total ignorance of the racing business. Nice column by Beyer which we all know is rare.
Mike S- I love how racing people pay deference to those that have "worked their way up from the bottom". Lou Raffeto. Kenny Noe etc. In my view these people are the problem with racing- we have no smart people running the bet. I have nothing against Lou Raffeto or your comment whatsoever but how many times do you see good businesspeople involed in the game. Our game is so poor that the people we can recruit to run it are probably some of the worst managers money can buy. So the only thing we can latch onto is that so-and-so "had great relationships with the horsemen". Haven't we all figured out by now that the horsemen are the enemies of the bettors?
Calder 8 Saturday#4 Redaspen (10-1ML) is the pick... There should be a fast pace which will help her and others... Her best race of the year was against Karen's Caper on firm turf at Monmouth and Karen's Caper would cover this field IMO... Her finishing times undergo been very strong and I think she'll be able to save ground in a race where many of the top choices are drawn wide... There are 2 issues the layoff being the biggest but she's had 2 mile works to get ready and the low % connections should help the price. IMO worth a few bucks.
With all due respect you're simply wrong. Just because somebody is a good manager in what ever sense that means business school or whatever doesn't mean they can effectively strike the balance of pleasing multiple constituents in this unique industry. I don't know how you define "smart" but in this industry if you're running a racetrack you've got a very complex job of pleasing multiple constituents that will ultimately effect the racing product presented to the public within certain prescribed constraints that you must deal with.
You could take some high IQ jest from Harvard business school and they would be clueless yet somehow confident in their abilities perhaps even arrogant and then destroy things (see Stronach businesses). In this industry bottom level experience and relationships are invaluable to truely "getting" this business and these are exactly the people we should be drawing from to run these businesses...
The extra large heart trait where hte heart is physically large without being pathologically malformed is not the same as the "heart" described above as determination/coat/wish to win is probably an X-linked trait--that is due to a gene on the X-chromosome. Stallions pass only a Y onto their colts so can't go any X-linked trait onto their colts just to their fillies.
Other things that are passed on only by the mare and not the stallion include mitochondria the metabolic powerhouse of the cell and although I've never construe any research about this it seems like it must be important in the transmission of stamina.
Did you see the oppose Twin Spires is running to get a berth in 'Vegas? The unique thing about it is that it's based soley on picking winners (or horses in the money) without regards to price. (5 points for 1st. 3 for 2nd. 1 for third) and it's kind of a challenge to handicap without regards to value so I'm gonna get "chalky" with the exception of the tiebreaker (12th) The key here is J'Ray for me who a lot of "experts" are picking against as well as the What A Pleasure where Check it Twice and Coal Play are 8/5 and 9/5 respectivly. (I was originally gonna use Check it Twice but changed my mind (kiss of death!!!!) when I noticed that Check It Twice would be trying to go 1 1/16 on two days rest! Coal City. J'Ray. Straight Money Man in the tiebreaker 12th (like trainer stats first turf and really don't want to be too dependent on a tiebreaker)then VIVA LAS VEGAS!
While I don't disagree in general with your comment. I think you're lumping Mr. Raffetto with the wrong group. This is the official who tried a lower takeout this year; who brought Cigar to Suffolk; who put together some of the greatest cards for bettors in Maryland in the 1980s on International day-he was one of the first racing secretaries to card multiple stakes and top allowance races together in one day. These were aimed at the bettor. While I think you have the right idea you've got the wrong guy.
I'm taking a little break from playing the ponies but i still did a little handicapping for the Calder P4. Race 8)#8 Bayou's Lassie. #11 Jray. #10 AnnabillRace 9)#1 Indy's AlexandraRace 10)#3 Check it Twice. #5 Coal PlayRace 11)I had to make some adjustments because I like Fishy Advice to win right approve but he's scratched so now my selections are #2 Minister's Joy. #3 Ballast. #6 GO Between and I may throw #4 National Captain. BTW-Why are all the AE's not running if there is now dwell for them?
Good Luck to everyone today!! The Cats have a big game today at 2 against obnoxiously overhyped UNC so here's hoping they can pull off the upset!!! GO Cats and best of luck to you if any of your teams are playing in the big football games today!(I know lots of exclaimation points but I'm pumped up!-another one for good measure)
Mike- Like I said my comment wasn't directed towards Raffetto but more the idea that good racing managers are the people that can relate to the horsement. I evaluate your measure comment provides more give as to why Raffeto is a good racing guy more than anything Beyer wrote. I didn't have a grasp of his history from the perspective of promoting the game and his ability to serve the fans- the true constituents of the game- and not only the horsemen. In the short run the horsemen want to race for the most money against the easiest competition completely opposite of what the bettors want. Just ask Bobby Frankel.
When I went to make my final bet of the day on a Pick 3 at Hollywood my balance was up over $400. I had just played a Super at turfway that I thought hadn't come in so I thought maybe there had been some dq's or something and i had hit it.
So I go to my wager analyse page and there's the 9 on one of my Calder Pick 4's. I played multiple tickets so not only did I undergo to mistakenly hit the 9 but also had to do it on the only ticket that stayed alive to the last race.
Apparently there is a glitch in the total superfecta pool amount reported by Equibase when there are no $1.00 superfecta winners but only one.10 cent superfecta winner or winners.
An example of this was on November 3rd at Hawthorne Race Course when the entire pool of 37,000 was taken by one.10 cent superfecta player. It doesn't effect the payout in that situation just the reporting of the pool amount.
Also it was pointed out that the $1.00 superfecta bettor could save on takeout if he/she created a.10 cent superfecta and punched up 10 tickets. I have done this with win tickets where I will make out two $100.00 tickets rather than one $200.00 ticket.
I was looking through the pedigrees of both Curlin and Rags to Riches for the X-factor gene (thank you for the link. Amanda it was very helpful) and I traced it back to Regulus (the broodmare sire of Eclipse) through Curlin's create so he has a chance of having the X-factor and I traced it back to Regulus through both A P Indy and Better Than Honour. Therefore. Rags to Riches is could be homozygous for the X-Factor. That would alter her an unbelievable broodmare as well. Interestingly when I was looking. A P Indy. exceed than Honour and Curlin none of their potential X-factor genes were through Eclipse. I traced them all through Regulus twice through his daughter Rachel who was the dam of Highflyer and once through Brown Regulus a daughter of Regulus.
Quick story since we are sharing them: Jan 2001. Monarchos had just broken his maiden at the Gulf. I liked the connections so I asked my brother-in-law who was headed to Vegas for a live party to lay drink a $100 future bet for me. I figured to get him in the 100-150/1 range. My bro-in-law comes back with my $100 and I'm like. "What happened?" His response: "Couldn't find him." We all know what happened. Monarchos blitzed the FL Derby and then broke the mythical 2:00 barrier for 12 furlongs in the KY Derby. I haven't forgiven him or made another future bet since. So just this week. I'm reading Haskin and he's talking about another son of Maria's Mon (out of an Easy Goer mare) who may have some ability and the thoughts "Karma". "Payback" and "Finally" immediately come to mind. And then Kyri goes and whispers "Monba" on this blog Friday. That cemented me. No idea if this cater can run but he is definitely my sentimental play. I've got another friend in Vegas (not my bro-in-law) who's going to try and get down on Monba for me ($100 hopefully in the 150-200/1 range). Go Monba!
Nothing on Friday. Thursday I missed everything including the eighth where I had the 41/1 shot but didn't have the 5/1 winner... Wednesday I hit one for $782 and one for $738. Not exactly like last week but so it goes. I am getting real tired of these short fields. But there is always tomorrow as hope does spring eternal.
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Wally- what I (and I think many) dislike about the new Gulfstream is that it has "de-emphasized" the outdoors relative to the old one. The old Gulfstream had a nice paddock/walking ring a grandstand where more than 900 could sit and watch the races generally nice grounds that emphasized what people typically want in South Florida in the winter- to be outdoors enjoying the sunshine and warm weather. Plus it had some charm. I frequent Monmouth and the old GP reminded me a lot of Mth.
Many also complain about the track layout which is 1 1/8 in circumference and does not accommodate 1 1/16 races. Also I understand horsemen are not fond of neither the outdoor paddock which offers no shade (I've never seen another one like it) nor the paddock under the grandstand which is cramped.
I went last March and had a great time. I would go back. I chose to hang out at one of the bars on the 2d floor that was on terrace overlooking the walking ring. I was on pass and thus didn't mind running up a bar tab every day. However I wouldn't want GP to be my regular track. It's way too small to handle big days and in my view has a generally unwelcoming feel to it.
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Speaking of workouts and my losing CRC picks/bets. Mattieandmorgan had a 2nd 4f work at Palm Meadows yesterday (she moved down from BEL in NOV.) This 2yo filly is by Smart Strike out of Lady Shirl - that makes her the HS to Fantastic Shirl (my losing pick in the MyChrmrH yesterday) and Shakespeare (and I think McLaughlin is also her trainer.) I hope she's getting ready for her 1st start soon!
You are correct about the way the super prices are computed.. it's always a multiple of the base amount which is $1 or a dime depending on whether the track has dime supers. I don't know why tracks report the $1 price when they offer the bet for a dime. It's not a glitch.. in your example the $1 super paid $370K.. the problem is nobody had it for a buck so nobody actually got paid that amount. Divide by 10 to get the dime price.
I'm not aware of any takeout savings but it is always better to play $1 supers as 10 separate dime tickets. The advantage is avoiding the IRS and having to report winnings. Steve. I hope you did that last weekend.. it's worth the extra few seconds spent hitting the 'repeat' button.
I kind of like the new pentafecta bet. I'll watch it for a while to see if it attracts a lot of money. It seems like a bet that could be worthwhile on carryover days if the daily pool is strong. Of course. I'd only believe playing the bet on turf but that's just me. I think the minimum here should be $1 because of the carryover situation. This bet has more in common with the P6 than the superfecta. I just hope the bettors treat it that way.
The bet I'd really like to see at more tracks is Tampa Bay's twin tri which also has a carryover feature.. it's a lot tougher than it sounds. The only obstacle is that it requires a software update on the machines because combos for the second leg are selected after the first leg is won.
------------------------------Nice posts by all... I think there's a lot of truth to what AlHattab was saying. However. Stronach seems to manage his empire like an equine production of the "The Producers".. why have a successful operation with good racing when you can destroy every bring in you comprehend one energy drink at a time?
The numerous posts are one of the more fascinating discussion strings and tug at questions that are better posed than answered if only because there are few definitive statements that can be advanced regarding the power of bloodlines in predicting performance on the track. Thanks. Amanda for the article about the x-factor. In thinking about both an x-factor and the receding influence of bloodlines with every generation (an interpretation not readily accepted by all) think of the mare. Mariah's Storm. A remarkable racehorse in her own right:MARIAH’S STORM by Rahy. 10 wins. 2 to 4. $724,895,Turfway Park Breeders’ Cup S.-G2. Arlington-WashingtonLassie S.-G2. Falls City H.-G3. AKsarben Oaks-G3,Arlington Heights Oaks-G3. Arlington Matron H.-G3. Mrs. Revere S.-L. Rolling Meadows S.-L. 2nd Valley View Breeders’Cup S.-L. Palatine Breeders’ Cup S.. 3rd SpinsterS.-G1.
Dam of 7 foals. 6 winners including—GIANT’S furnish (c by act Cat). 9 wins in 13starts at 2 and 3. $3,078,989 in England. France,Ireland and North America. Horse of the Year in Europeat 3 highweight in England and Ireland at 91⁄2-11 fur at 3 highweight in Ireland at 7-91⁄2 fur at 3,Irish Champion S.-G1. Prix de la Salamandre-G1. JuddmonteInternational S.-G1. Eclipse S.-G1. SussexS.-G1. St. James’s Palace S.-G1. EBF Futurity S.-G3,Gladness S.-G3. 2nd Two Thousand Guineas-G1,Irish Two Thousand Guineas-G1. Breeders’ Cup Classic-G1. Queen Elizabeth II S.-G1. Sire. YOU’RESOTHRILLING (f by Storm Cat). 2 wins at 2,2007. $208,740 in England and Ireland. Cherry HintonS.-G2. Swordlestown Stud Sprint S.-G3 etc. Tumblebrutus (c by Storm Cat). Winner at 2 in Ireland,England and North America. 2nd EBF Futurity S.-G2. Freud (c by Storm Cat). Subject stallion. Tiger Dance (c by Storm Cat). Winner at 2. $34,093in Ireland and North America. 3rd Governor’s H.-L. Roar of the Tiger (c by Storm Cat). 4 wins. 2 to 5 inIreland and North America. 3rd Governor’s H.-L
Note that her six winners are comrised of five beat brothers and one full sister (a 2 year old this year). What accounts for only one of them not only being a monster runner in his own right but also being a highly successful sire? Perhaps the jury is still out on Freud and Tumblebrutus' success as stallions but with the same (obviously not identical)genetic inheritance we have a good case study for exploring even if ever so tentatively the contribution of receding generations to a horse's innate ability.
What is with this preoccupation with Invasor? I still like Michael Jordan but I don't sit arounf eating Life cereal thinking about him as the most talented player that ever played the game of basketball.
Hammersly suggests that Invasor was the most talented horse he saw in 2007 and brings up the Donn and Dubai. He includes Curlin and Mid-Night Lute as candidates for the most talented horses he saw in 2007. He does declare that Curlin may have been the most talented but he is not sure about that. It all starts with INVASOR. INVASOR. INVASOR.
I just don't get it. I assume he is talking about the be performances of these horses for the year 2007 and not a particular performance or a couple of performances during the year. If so how he could he even have the audacity to suggest suggest that Curlin may not have been the most talented horse for 2007?
Chicago Gerry-Hammersly never said anything about Invasor being the most talented racehorse ever to set foot on a track so it would be unfair to compare him to Michael Jordan who probably is the most talented basketball player ever. Secondly both of Invasor's performances this year were very nice and I don't think that any other older horse could possibly beat him if he were still in training. Thirdly. Invasor ran in the US in a Grade 1 and was obviously superior to those horses and then traveled half way around the world and was superior to all of the top horses in Dubai. That is a spectacular feat and even Curlin hasn't beaten the world just America. Curlin raced in Grade 1 company 6 times in his short career and he lost half those times. Invasor didn't suffer this year. How can you compare a cater that hasn't lost this year and only lost once in at least 12 starts won a Triple Crown and beat top horses in at least 3 countries to a horse who raced 9 times lost 3 times and has only beaten US horses? I believe that this is where Hammersly is basing his choice and I for one agree with it entirely.
Now take Chef-de-Race Hasili who is an excellent mare. Four of her seven offspring are G1/Group I winners with over $1 million in earnings and five of them were sired by Danehill. Both Hasili and Danehill are out of the Northern Dancer line and Northern Dancer is out of the line of Nearco who is the ancestor of most of the modern-day thoroughbred champions.
Hi Gerry,My measure post was poorly worded.. obviously you can't win more money than what's in the pool. If someone had a live $1 combo the pool would've been split between 10 additional dime winners. I got a good laugh from your analogy to Michael Jordan. Between Invasor and Curlin it's impossible to say that one was much exceed than the other. BTW. Steve and Chase.. while Invasor ran in Dubai. I wouldn't exactly call this year's World Cup an international field... DiscreetCat. PremiumTap and a few outmatched also-rans.. besides the local Dubai horses are significantly weaker than the Americans anyway. IMO. I liked Invasor a lot but I have no reason to say he was better than Curlin or vice versa. C
You are making me reopen a fresh wound (the stewards giveth and the stewards taketh away! Last week I won the SUPER with their takedown -> this week I lost the P4 because they kept Buchwacker ON TOP in the VernonUnderwood!) but this is why I put Postage Stamp on my P4 ticket. The key was Stage Sensation...
Stage Sensation came in 3rd at DMR 1st-out in the Czechers/PSU Grad msw race. Next month she came in 5th at OSA in another msw. Two weeks ago (Nov18) she finally broke her maiden in her 3rd attempt - a MC for SouthernEquStbl/Guillot/Baze. Stage Sensation's likely HOL "work partner" (work for Guillot the same day and distance) the past couple of months was Postage Stamp. Their last work together (Nov10) was won by Postage Stamp (0:59.80 vs 1:00.20) -> IMO she let Postage Stamp win that work to increase his male ego (she must not realize Postage Stamp is gelded??)
Too bad I didn't play Postage walk to win but only on the P4 (his ML was 8/1 but he went off at >20/1.) My P4 loss stunk! I change surface singled Gomez's 6/1 ML horse in the 8th race (my ticket was 1,5,6,9/2/1,3/4,9,11) and only bet a small WP on him. Instead of a large P4 win. I barely made any money for my efforts in those races! Those arouse Racing Gods are still punishing me!!!
Someone from Schoharie N. Y posed the question about 10k stallions that will have an impact on U. S racing. Mr. Rogers responded "as far as proven value sires around 10k I like Victory Gallop. They run and I think he will keep getting it done and the market will pay for it".
If you are into pedigree study and bloodline matings you might want to construe the entire article. While there is some egoistical sarcastic content I could have done without it is a pretty good read.
Victsu would be very remiss if I didn't at least comment on your post including "The Road Less Traveled". Peck is a brilliant read as is anything by the great Dr. Edwin Timmons (pyscholgy prof. @ LSU) who was voted more than once as the best professor @ LSU by none other the the student body. One of the lessons in life for me was by Timmons called "Don't Kick The Cat". In a nutshell don't let a bad beat affect future decisions or maybe more importantly don't go home and kick the cat because you had a bad day!
Without getting lenghty I pasted and copied your post to give to a young couple I hired in my restaurant. The husband. Charlie has a felony the wife has problems as well. They are good workers and. I feel pretty good people just made some bad decisions as we all have. Just trying to help them get it together. My hope would be they act your post to heart. Nice writing! BTW would loved to have meet your Uncle Dan. Even without meeting or ever knowing him he is a real hero. Most of us couldn't even dream about passing on with a legacy anywhere close to his.
Some of you are probably asking what the heck does this have to do with horse racing?---Enjoy the race today win or lose. Hopefully we all wake up tomorrow on the right side of the grass and can choose a winner!
Note: These Decarchy horses are just kickin'! Pay attention they are for real. There are not alot of them yet but they have an incredible record as first time starters all that I have open in the recent weeks have been in the money in their first starts including. Cantina's Rose. Kiss My Crown. Harlene and Gooch's conceive of (these were the only Decarchy entries since 11-14). So if one comes up as an FTS look hard.
undergo you guys watched the Ken Burns special "War" yet? An incredible piece of work. Actually saw the B-29 my dad was on taking off from Tinian (he didn't believe me and watched the rerun). Watching the Marines that ended up on Guadalcanal then Bouganville then Iwo then Okinawa - and they actually came home and didn't start slaughtering populate on the streets.
I wonder if we would have been able to do what they did. I used to work for an old Master Chief Botswains Mate who had 1/2" deep scars down his back from barnacles when he slid down the hull of the USS Utah when it rolled at Pearl. His response? Coulda been worse. I had orders to the Arizona the next week... I actually worked on Ford Island and there is a courtyard in the dispensary that wasn't there on December 6th. I used to go tour the Utah - it is on the back side of the island and no one ever goes there. Everyone I knew that was in WW2 my Dad my uncles everybody always responded the same "it wasn't that big a deal we just did what we had to do"
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