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His first foray into games soundtracks certainly was ambitious and a lot of tricks were used to get exactly the sound he wanted for the game. Adventurers may want to take notice of the subtle changes in the game's auditory landscape. "There were small differences depending on where you were in the game," he says. "For instance in the monastery we used weird metal things and Tibetan bowls and stuff like that. And when we were out in the jungle we used all kinds of ethnic flutes. But even those things kind of crossed over so it was fun."Interestingly a lot of "different" instruments were used to craft the sound of such as "the saz (a Turkish stringed instrument) didgeridoo conch shell harmonic flutes shofar frame drum and a bunch of invented instruments that don't even have names."Listen to samples from the score at. The complete album is available on.[Via ] Firefly was a great show and was cut tragically short in much the same way as Angel. It's funny because Nathan Drake reminds me of Malcolm Reynolds in a lot of ways. I really enjoyed the music in Uncharted along with just about everything else that game had to offer. Can't wait for the next installment. Ug. I enjoyed Angel but Firefly was 10 times the show Angel was. Far better characters plot and writing. I've only played the demo so far but I actually had to turn the music way WAY down because it was so annoying and repetitive. It was neat at first but it needed to switch up.. it was like on a 10 second loop or something crazy. I liked the demo but wasn't blown away by the gameplay. Wish there'd been a little more exploration and less waves and waves of bad guys. The story looks really good and the graphics were definitely top notch so I'll definitely get it sometime soon but I'm effectively broke right now.... Rock Band. GH3 and Eye of Judgement really trashed my wallet. @NateThe game is by far one of the best if not the best for the PS3 out right now! It's amazing the game goes far and beyond what the demo shows you and the music really ties the aura of the game very well! Go pick it up if you get a chance and who ever else hasn't gotten it GO GET IT! This is an awesome game but i suggest renting it. The total gameplay time is 8 hours at max to get through the plot. There are things you can unlock like costumes and such but they aren't really worth ,imo to keep playing through the game to earn them. "Greg Edmonson composer of the best TV show ever. Firefly..."Quoted for truth. I'm working on a fanepisode for Chrissakes. Oh yeah and Uncharted is good too. 'Least the demo was. A few of my lady friends watched me play it and we had a blast. I think if they ever make an Uncharted movie. Nathan Fillion is the obvious choice for Nathan Drake. Nate constantly reminded me of Mal. I like the new comments program. Guys can you do post on PS3 Themes? Here goes a website you can view with the PC or the PS3 web browser:Over a hundred themes already uploaded. I thought they were gonna bring Firefly back? Too bad they killed off two of the best characters in 'Serenity'. Uncharted is my new obsession. Crushing difficulty mode is insane. They don't let up. The A. I goes from tough and intuitive to downright mean and tactical. And I think they add in new enemies to shake you up if you're use to sneaking up on the prepositioned enemies you're so familiar with. Now I have to buy Uncharted just because Greg Edmonson composed the music!!!!Firefly is the greatest show ever made!!! (Invader Zim is the best cartoon ever made but Firefly is just a little better) Oh. I've been in that room! That's the recording studio at Skywalker Ranch and it's about the best you can get. Not only was Drake's music done by a great composer but the quality will be the best a video game has ever seen. I want my toslink cable put to use! Yes the music in the game is very well done. I love all the "world" instruments. And while I generally hate TV. I'm agreeing with the Yoon on this one. Firefly was amazing. Saz is wrongly cited as the name of an instrument. In old Turkish it simply means "instrument". However I think the article refers to "Baglama" a traditional stringed instrument which is more or less similar to the guitar.

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Apparently "Supercapitalism" is making the rounds over at AlterNet because they keep writing about it. This time there's former labor secretary Robert Reich and he takes the opportunity to summarize his main arguments from the book. One is that not only should we not be giving corporations the special rights that humans are given but we also shouldn't expect them to behave morally. It's kind of an anthropomorphic fallacy and it's very dangerous. Corporate social responsibility is a nice idea but corporations will not be socially responsible if by socially responsible we are suggesting that they sacrifice consumer deals and investor returns. They won't. He also talks about why he calls the period from 1945 to 1975 the "not quite golden age," and offers some general ideas on how to begin repairing the democratic process in the U. S.

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By far most of the guys I have ever worked with undergo been open-minded and quite enlightened. In fact the geekier and/or more competent the guy the less of an issue it usually is to be a woman in IT. Every now and then I come across a Flintstone man though which is exactly what happened to me at our work x-mas party last night. One of our company's new have students a 17 year-old boy introduced himself to my colleague and me. Not sure what possessed him but he only talked about his work to Eduard clearly assuming I was the clueless girlfriend. So far bring together enough - I could have been. Then I asked him what communicate he was on and what he was doing. He told me he was doing some IT work for a customer after which I asked which customer and communicate and what kind of work. And although I was the one asking the questions he kept talking to Eduard. Slightly annoyed I asked a more technical question: I was interested in what database they were running as he had just told me (i e. Eduard) he was doing a data migration. Answer to this: At which inform I exploded and decided to completely freak him out (I do develop a killer streak when someone assumes I can't code just because I'm wearing a little black dress). So I patted his shoulder and told him in the most patronizing way I could muster (I did kind of enjoy calling him little boy) that he had just made a very career limiting act and that it was always a huge mistake to assume women wouldn't understand IT. I also told him I held an Oracle certification and could code 10 times better than him and if he ever talked down to a woman in IT again I'd kill his career before it had change surface started (not that I have to power to do that but little Flintstone boy wouldn't experience ;-)There are some interesting points about this: ()go out Posted: 14 Dec 2007 11:29 AM (GMT +12:00) Top | Reply to this | remove call: ha ha haAuthor: Stuart (http://stuart amanzi co nz/)go out Posted: 09 Dec 2007 06:31 PM (GMT +12:00) Well done! Sounds like he has a lot to learn in life.... Top | say to this | Delete Title: On yaAuthor: Mike Riversdale (http://miramarmike blogspot com)Date Posted: 09 Dec 2007 06:37 PM (GMT +12:00) It was funny last night and it's lost nothing today Top | Reply to this | remove call: ouchAuthor: Ben Kepes (http://diversity net nz)Date Posted: 09 Dec 2007 06:42 PM (GMT +12:00) Christ - inform me never to cross you Sandy!He is only 17 - young dumb and beat of.. yeah whatever. It is a funny thing that people still evaluate that way - me I'm not a genius but smart enough not to conceive of of crossing someone like you - little lack dress or not.... Top | Reply to this | Delete Author: Sandy go out Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:08 AM (GMT +12:00) Oh you've nothing to fear. Ben ;-)He is only 17 dumb and inexperienced.. no harm done. Hopefully he'll learn. I think the inform is that if I'm nice about it he won't learn anything at all. A fright like this he'll bequeath for a long time and might (hopefully) help him change his attitude towards women in technology. Top | Reply to this | Delete Title: over and overAuthor: unpclesbian go out Posted: 10 Dec 2007 07:32 AM (GMT +12:00) and over again the male of the sepcies re confirm my mantra..."more balls than brains". Had it of been me the boy wouldn't have had any balls left. Very keen to see the little black dress! ()go out Posted: 14 Dec 2007 11:30 AM (GMT +12:00) call: Not really something to be proud of... Author: IanDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:01 AM (GMT +12:00)I understand your frustration - it's alter that the boy had no idea of how to handle himself in a 'work social' situation. However. I disagree with the choices you made in terms of handling the situation. You could quite easily have simply explained to him that you were tech-nically competent (although we both know that certification is no proof of this) and rephrased your question. Instead you chose to bully an inexperienced young boy and as is the case with most bullies you chose to do so simply to alter yourself feel exceed rather than with any thought to his feelings. change surface more degrading you chose to complain about your 'victory' on your public blog. Not something I'd be particularly proud of... Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: Sandy Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:22 AM (GMT +12:00)Well let's agree to disagree then ;-)The point is not that he is unable to command himself in a bring home the bacon social situation it is his underlying attitude towards women. Assuming women don't understand technology is a much more fundamental flaw than not being able to manage yourself in a work/social context. Rephrasing my challenge would have kept the conversation on a nice and amicable level but Flintstone boy would probably have forgotten every-thing about it the day after. A major chock and freak-out treatment will stay in his memory for much longer and will hopefully back up him dress his attitude. So thinking about his feelings was exactly what I did... ;-)But ey you think I shouldn't be proud and I think I should (and am). Happy to be. Ian...(P. S. Any particular reason you're the only commenter on my blog who didn't get his email communicate? )Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: IanDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:44 AM (GMT +12:00)Sounds like we be on more on method rather than reasoning - I stated in my post that I could understand your frustration with the way you were treated. I undergo to ask however would you undergo taken the same tack had one of the directors of Fronde treated you same manner? I think perhaps you may have handled the situation somewhat differently. P. S. I don't leave my telecommunicate address on public blogs because I undergo no idea where that telecommunicate address would end up - and I have an aversion to both spam and flame-mail. Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: SandyDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 10:18 AM (GMT +12:00)Fair enough. And I agree that the method is controversial. One point I'd like to make is that this is not about my personal frustration as I have no problem handling a 17 year old boy. This is more about pro-tecting 17 year old girls who will undergo to work with this guy and who might not be able to command him. Regarding the same situation with a Fronde director: Believe me. I would undergo handled the situation in the exact same way and said the exact same thing to him. It might undergo been a lot harder to scare him but I would probably have depart my job on the spot. P. S. Fair enough about the email address. ()go out Posted: 14 Dec 2007 11:31 AM (GMT +12:00) call: no pittyAuthor: halgaDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:49 AM (GMT +12:00)Very well done. Because this is an experience women in technology and sciencefrequently alter. It´s measure men get this into their heads. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: Bunny BoilerAuthor: Julian BeardDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 10:32 AM (GMT +12:00)Wow! Seems like a huge over reaction to me. Such a minor thing spurs such an agressive response. Whilst the 17 year old may be having some growing pains. I don't think its the 17 year old that needs back up. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: Obviously didn't take the hint... Author: Dave ( http://daveharris wordpress com)Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 10:34 AM (GMT +12:00)Hi Sandy,While he may be young and inexperienced (I don't know) I'm glad you at least gave him the opportunity to click that you weren't the trophy girl-fiend type (and blond at that!). Its good that you told him the truth about your technical ability rather than letting it flow over that wouldnt be the Sandy way!You shouldve invited him along to the barcamp to see you in action :) Nice work SandyDaveTop | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: GlennDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:16 AM (GMT +12:00)As someone in a lay of authority that sounds desire a pretty unprofes-sional way to introduce a new graduate to your company. Sure the guy sounds desire he needs some real world (and life) experience but insulting him and saying youre 10x better than him isnt going to give him the undergo he obviously needs. (Weve all had that undergo al-ready at primary school.....)Its strange that you think because he's 17 (and presumably straight out of some coding cover) that he should know better.. how? I was at uni-versity only a few years ago and we had maybe a handful of females in our 250+ compsci lectures. This is most likely also his (of course limited and do by) undergo to date. Why didn't you inform yourself knowing he is a new graduate and un-likely to experience who you are?As for accusing of career-limiting moves as someone who is obviously proud of personal attacks on colleagues. I would be careful it doesn't displace around the other way. Agree he needs some education disagree with the approach. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: Questioning the intent of a 17 year old "boy". Author: Not that Ian.. a different one. Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:31 AM (GMT +12:00)I don't really know him either but suffice to say that I both know his type and have seen him "in challenge". I think the poor guy is scared of women. He is in a very professional company with some very intelligent men and women. I can't think of anything scarier than being at a "work answer" with people you are trying to affect with attractive women dressed up "in little color dresses" when you don't really experience how to handle women. I honestly think this is a case of mistaken identity you think you've stumbled across one of the "male chauvinist pig" types who believe women undergo no place in IT but in fact you've found a rare elusive and now even more frightened young guy.. who doesn't have a roll how to communicate to women let alone intelligent women. I really feel quite sorry for him.. and in a way for anyone thinking that a 17 year old as you say..."boy" would undergo had enough time or experience to have such a belief insofar as not talking to women for that reason. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: Throw him a boneAuthor: BeakerDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:50 AM (GMT +12:00)I agree with Glenn; it sounded desire you were already in a mindset about him rather than introducing yourself and telling him what you do for a career. Most geeks (myself included) anticipate that most populate that we meet don't have a roll what we talk about even if we do try to explain things simply... There aren't as many women in IT as there are men however I work at a company where its about a 1:2 split. How can anybody furnish someone a bring together chance at his career if you're already going to adjudicate him before you change surface know him? Or is it all about you?At a Christmas function?! Just get drunk and have a good time!! And telling him that he made a go limiting act makes it sound desire you're less of a professional and on more of a power-trip. Merry Christmas. ()go out Posted: 14 Dec 2007 12:25 PM (GMT +12:00) Title: scary womenAuthor: JasonDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:51 AM (GMT +12:00)Sandy I would like to know as the more develop person you claim to be why you didnt introduce yourself in a way that would expose what you did and the lay you held - something like: Hi.... I'm Sandy - I work as a db admin/coder/communicate admin.. and carry on the conversation from there. Rather you baited him/ran your own little object evaluate to see where he went with it. I agree that it is highly irritating when people dont answer a question to your approach however so many times technical people talk to others in there usual language and get change state drink/the eyes turn/your get the "Boring!" comment/be - no doubt you would have experienced this yourself... Did you happen to evaluate that maybe he would be nervous at his first company party/maybe change surface interacting with a woman? Some/a large number of male geeks have trouble crossing social boundaries towards others and especially towards women - did you happen to evaluate about that before blitzing his 0.1% confidence level? (obviously I'm making some assumptions about his personality with this statement but it is something to take into account)Its not very nice to rip on a aggroup member (he is part of your company = part of the larger team) so I think its more than a little unprofessional to basically bully/publicly humiliate someone - a very good way to breed inner company resentment... I havent had much to do with Fronde but if this is how it goes down I dont think its the place I would ever like to work. As for running the qualifications book/10x better statement I think this brings nothing - When did you look at his code/sit down with him and converse over techincal topics/when have certs proven that someone is a good coder? I experience many populate with certs and many without - funnily enough its normally the ones without them that have the real raw talent/passion. I bring home the bacon with many smart women - and understand that it can be a hard for them in the industry. I always treat them with the highest level of respect but also know that this would never be the way that they would approach this situation - I would say they would either personally encounter them/just move on... Wouldn't the higher road be the better one?This is the first measure I have visited your communicate and will also be the last - hopefully you will reflect on how you undergo acted - being a bully - doesnt the saying go: "treat others how you like to be treated"?Agreed on Ian and Glenn's commentsTop | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: Brenda (http://coffee geek nz)Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 02:45 PM (GMT +12:00):-) Sandy you handled it excellently i say. It's incredibly rude and despite repeated direct questions and even technical questions he directed responses to the "boyfriend". Sure when I start a conversation with someone. I pay somepart of it establishing whether they're going to understand me when i turn technical. - but assuming someone doesn't because they're polynesian or a go across dresser or working in a bar today that's not okay. That kid hopefully will grow up and one day convey you for the wake up call. Top | say to this | DeleteTitle: I evaluate you should give him another chanceAuthor: olapDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 01:00 AM (GMT +12:00)Hi Sandy,Being the professional that you are. I will suggest you throw him an olive branch get to experience him and if possible apologise for the way you treated him. RegardsOlap ()Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 12:26 PM (GMT +12:00) Title: O... M... GAuthor: unpclesbianDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 07:42 AM (GMT +12:00)The boy was rude! In any social situation if someone speaks to you you say directly to them and one could mutter on about showing respect to elders as come up. Goodness Olap you don't evaluate the boy should apologise for the way he treated Sandy. What did he do when he was at educate and a female teacher asked him a question run down the hall to sight a male one to give the say to. My instincts tell me that if the 17 year old had been a girl she would have got the same treatment. Unbelievable seems to be a lot of male commenters up above clutching tightly to their balls. This is the 21st century one would think boys had been taught the basics of consider to both genders by now. Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: BeakerDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 08:30 AM (GMT +12:00)I accept with you Olap. It was a Christmas party and they were two strangers one of them out to prove a point. For christs sake; what goes on in the bush stays in the bush! There's something very American about the way she belittled him. He had NO idea who she was or what she did and she's as bad as he is if she didn't put her more "develop" foot send to get to know him first. Top | say to this | DeleteTitle: gender... Author: olgaDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 10:10 AM (GMT +12:00)Most gentlemen be to be rather upset: This is probably because they have never been in a situation where people made an assumption about their knowledge based on their gender. Most women on the other hand have experienced this choose of derogatory treatment. I very much disbelieve that the young man would have acted in the same way had he been talking to a man even if he wasn't sure of his technical understanding. But of course he would never undergo made the assumption the other male would be technically clueless in the first displace. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: Grow upAuthor: SarahDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 07:55 AM (GMT +12:00)This is a simple case of an older person in a position of cater getting their jollies by humiliating and intimidating a younger bring home the bacon colleague at a social event. To alter things worse the older person feels vindicated in gloating about their behaviour in a public forum following the event. To try and confirm workplace bullying on the basis of gender politics is pathetic. Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: Sandy Mamoli (http://sandy terapad com/)Date Posted: 12 Dec 2007 11:05 AM (GMT +12:00)Love that you have a Fronde IP address :-)I esteem your courage... ;-)Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: sarahDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 08:24 PM (GMT +12:00)Yes I do work at Fronde and I witnessed part of your display on Saturday night. At the time I put it into the context of a Christmas party and thought very little of it. However when an email was sent around the affiliate with a link to your blogg. I was astounded at the lack of respect you show for the people that you bring home the bacon with and the affiliate you work for. Not only did you see fit to identify our work Christmas party as the venue where this incident occurred you entangle the need to describe the incident in such vivid detail that the other person in your story is easily identifiable. Given that you have handed your sight in at Fronde I anticipate respect for your current colleagues is not currently a strong motivating calculate for you. You can dress up threatening the career of a person half your age and confirm it to yourself however you desire but don’t insult populate’s intelligence by pretending that you acted on behalf of the future generations of women that this guy will work with. When does bullying ever achieve anything other than reinforce contradict stereotypes such as the ones concerning women in positions of authority. Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: JimiDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 05:40 PM (GMT +12:00)I back up that. Pathetic. And insecure. The only explanation that she'd desire public sympathy. A Fronde IP address; did you just make a "career limiting move?" cough out!Top | Reply to this | Delete ()go out Posted: 14 Dec 2007 12:27 PM (GMT +12:00) Title: Anything you likeAuthor: Cactus Kate (http://www asianinvasion2006 blogspot com)Date Posted: 12 Dec 2007 02:51 PM (GMT +12:00)"I'm moving data from one database to another using scripts. Oh is that too technical for you? Do you understand this?"The only appropriate response to this is anything you damn well please. Any other profession more aggressive than IT and the little twit would have been thrown up against a wall. But then any other profession wouldn't employ 17 year olds to do anything other than run errands and choose mail. You have taught him a valuable lesson and one he should already know at his age in a profession that has such a vast mix of people all operating at different levels. The boss isn't necessarily the oldest guy in a color suit. Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: JimiDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 05:38 PM (GMT +12:00)come up why the hell not ask her that? If they're at a staff function and they've never met then how was he supposed to know any better? And maybe he was intoxicated. I say leave your personal probs out of work business. And get over it. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: OutcomesAuthor: RichardDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 08:52 PM (GMT +12:00)Fascinating cram. Was the reaction alter or wrong? Meh - I sight myself vascillating so I don't think I feel strongly enough either way to comment. Or possibly it's out of desire not to be told I'm clutching tightly to my balls or not to be seen as pandering to those telling others that they're clutching their balls - who knows? ;-)With regards to the outcome though let's not kid ourselves - he's not going to come out of it thinking "gosh. I'd better be respectful to both genders in future". It's going to be more along the lines of "women can be really mean and nasty yuck". It's a little arrogant to think you can turn around 17 years of ingrained sexism with one indignant speech. The outcome is that Sandy feels better and that the boy has a slightly more negative opinion of women that's all. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: How do you experience?Author: Mike Riversdale (http://miramarmike blogspot com)Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 11:23 AM (GMT +12:00) - IP: 121.73.22.20<em>The outcome is that Sandy feels better and that the boy has a slightly more negative opinion of women that's all.</em>How do you know have you asked him? Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: Goblin (goblin@fuckoffsandy com)go out Posted: 13 Dec 2007 11:55 AM (GMT +12:00)WHAAAAAAT? I bet he does now after being humiliated in front of his entire company!Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: HmmmAuthor: IanBDate Posted: 13 Dec 2007 12:18 PM (GMT +12:00)Interesting. I don't agree at face value with what he said. However at 17 he's expected to have some growing up to do. You're already supposed to have done a good deal of yours. I cite your response to him as evidence that you undergo something to hit the books about relating to people. I advance cite your publicising and arguably being proud of your treatment of this young man as yet advance bear witness of this. I'm also intrigued by your assertions. Apparently you are able to deduce by merely looking at somebody and talking to them for a matter of moments that you are '10 times better at coding' than them. Remarkable. Perhaps you should believe a career in IT recruitment. What I'm particularly fascinated by is your assertion that you can "kill his career". I'm eager to learn what influences you posses in the Wellington IT arena. Or indeed just at Fronde. Maybe we can analyse notes. I'm more than willing to engage in a face to face discussion with you about this. I must caution you however that any verbal assault targetted towards me may not work out as well for you as you obviously evaluate the one targetted towards the young chap in your story did. Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: Sandy Mamoli (http://sandy terapad com/)go out Posted: 13 Dec 2007 01:07 PM (GMT +12:00)Hi Ian,If you carefully read the actual blog entry you will see that I stated I actually couldn't blackball his career. In fact. I neither can nor be to. I just tried to furnish him a excite for being rude and making sexist assumptions and didn't undergo any inclination to be factual at all. Happy to meet for a approach to face discussion - should be fun :-)

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By far most of the guys I have ever worked with undergo been open-minded and quite enlightened. In fact the geekier and/or more competent the guy the less of an air it usually is to be a woman in IT. Every now and then I come across a Flintstone man though which is exactly what happened to me at our work x-mas party measure night. One of our affiliate's new graduate students a 17 year-old boy introduced himself to my colleague and me. Not sure what possessed him but he only talked about his work to Eduard clearly assuming I was the clueless girlfriend. So far bring together enough - I could have been. Then I asked him what project he was on and what he was doing. He told me he was doing some IT work for a customer after which I asked which customer and communicate and what kind of work. And although I was the one asking the questions he kept talking to Eduard. Slightly annoyed I asked a more technical question: I was interested in what database they were running as he had just told me (i e. Eduard) he was doing a data migration. Answer to this: At which inform I exploded and decided to completely freak him out (I do create a killer move when someone assumes I can't code just because I'm wearing a little black dress). So I patted his shoulder and told him in the most patronizing way I could muster (I did kind of enjoy calling him little boy) that he had just made a very career limiting act and that it was always a huge mistake to assume women wouldn't understand IT. I also told him I held an Oracle certification and could label 10 times better than him and if he ever talked down to a woman in IT again I'd kill his career before it had even started (not that I undergo to power to do that but little Flintstone boy wouldn't experience ;-)There are some interesting points about this: ()go out Posted: 14 Dec 2007 11:29 AM (GMT +12:00) Top | Reply to this | Delete Title: ha ha haAuthor: Stuart (http://stuart amanzi co nz/)Date Posted: 09 Dec 2007 06:31 PM (GMT +12:00) Well done! Sounds like he has a lot to learn in life.... Top | Reply to this | Delete Title: On yaAuthor: Mike Riversdale (http://miramarmike blogspot com)Date Posted: 09 Dec 2007 06:37 PM (GMT +12:00) It was funny last night and it's lost nothing today Top | say to this | Delete call: ouchAuthor: Ben Kepes (http://diversity net nz)go out Posted: 09 Dec 2007 06:42 PM (GMT +12:00) Christ - remind me never to cross you Sandy!He is only 17 - young dumb and full of.. yeah whatever. It is a funny thing that people still evaluate that way - me I'm not a genius but smart enough not to dream of crossing someone like you - little lack change or not.... Top | say to this | Delete compose: Sandy Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:08 AM (GMT +12:00) Oh you've nothing to fear. Ben ;-)He is only 17 dumb and inexperienced.. no harm done. Hopefully he'll learn. I think the point is that if I'm nice about it he won't learn anything at all. A excite like this he'll bequeath for a desire time and might (hopefully) back up him change his attitude towards women in technology. Top | Reply to this | Delete Title: over and overAuthor: unpclesbian Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 07:32 AM (GMT +12:00) and over again the male of the sepcies re confirm my mantra..."more balls than brains". Had it of been me the boy wouldn't have had any balls left. Very keen to see the little black dress! ()Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 11:30 AM (GMT +12:00) call: Not really something to be proud of... Author: IanDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:01 AM (GMT +12:00)I understand your frustration - it's alter that the boy had no idea of how to command himself in a 'work social' situation. However. I be with the choices you made in terms of handling the situation. You could quite easily undergo simply explained to him that you were tech-nically competent (although we both know that certification is no create of this) and rephrased your question. Instead you chose to bully an inexperienced young boy and as is the inspect with most bullies you chose to do so simply to make yourself conclude better rather than with any thought to his feelings. Even more degrading you chose to bleat about your 'victory' on your public blog. Not something I'd be particularly proud of... Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: Sandy Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:22 AM (GMT +12:00)come up let's agree to disagree then ;-)The inform is not that he is unable to command himself in a work social situation it is his underlying attitude towards women. Assuming women don't understand technology is a much more fundamental flaw than not being able to bring home the bacon yourself in a bring home the bacon/social context. Rephrasing my question would undergo kept the conversation on a nice and amicable aim but Flintstone boy would probably have forgotten every-thing about it the day after. A study chock and freak-out treatment will stay in his memory for much longer and ordain hopefully help him change his attitude. So thinking about his feelings was exactly what I did... ;-)But ey you evaluate I shouldn't be proud and I think I should (and am). Happy to disagree. Ian...(P. S. Any particular cerebrate you're the only commenter on my communicate who didn't leave his email address? )Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: IanDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:44 AM (GMT +12:00)Sounds desire we disagree on more on method rather than reasoning - I stated in my post that I could understand your frustration with the way you were treated. I have to ask however would you undergo taken the same tack had one of the directors of Fronde treated you same manner? I think perhaps you may undergo handled the situation somewhat differently. P. S. I don't get my email address on public blogs because I have no idea where that email communicate would end up - and I have an aversion to both spam and flame-mail. Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: SandyDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 10:18 AM (GMT +12:00)Fair enough. And I accept that the method is controversial. One point I'd like to make is that this is not about my personal frustration as I have no problem handling a 17 year old boy. This is more about pro-tecting 17 year old girls who ordain have to work with this guy and who might not be able to command him. Regarding the same situation with a Fronde director: Believe me. I would undergo handled the situation in the claim same way and said the exact same thing to him. It might have been a lot harder to scare him but I would probably have quit my job on the spot. P. S. bring together enough about the email address. ()Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 11:31 AM (GMT +12:00) call: no pittyAuthor: halgaDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:49 AM (GMT +12:00)Very well done. Because this is an undergo women in technology and sciencefrequently alter. It´s time men get this into their heads. Top | say to this | DeleteTitle: Bunny BoilerAuthor: Julian BeardDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 10:32 AM (GMT +12:00)Wow! Seems desire a huge over reaction to me. Such a minor thing spurs such an agressive response. Whilst the 17 year old may be having some growing pains. I don't think its the 17 year old that needs help. Top | say to this | DeleteTitle: Obviously didn't take the hint... Author: Dave ( http://daveharris wordpress com)Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 10:34 AM (GMT +12:00)Hi Sandy,While he may be young and inexperienced (I don't know) I'm glad you at least gave him the opportunity to move that you weren't the trophy girl-fiend write (and blond at that!). Its good that you told him the truth about your technical ability rather than letting it flow over that wouldnt be the Sandy way!You shouldve invited him along to the barcamp to see you in challenge :) Nice bring home the bacon SandyDaveTop | say to this | DeleteAuthor: GlennDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:16 AM (GMT +12:00)As someone in a position of authority that sounds desire a pretty unprofes-sional way to introduce a new have to your company. Sure the guy sounds like he needs some real world (and life) experience but insulting him and saying youre 10x better than him isnt going to give him the experience he obviously needs. (Weve all had that experience al-ready at primary school.....)Its strange that you evaluate because he's 17 (and presumably straight out of some coding course) that he should experience exceed.. how? I was at uni-versity only a few years ago and we had maybe a handful of females in our 250+ compsci lectures. This is most likely also his (of course limited and wrong) experience to date. Why didn't you introduce yourself knowing he is a new graduate and un-likely to experience who you are?As for accusing of career-limiting moves as someone who is obviously proud of personal attacks on colleagues. I would be careful it doesn't swing around the other way. Agree he needs some education disagree with the approach. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: Questioning the intent of a 17 year old "boy". Author: Not that Ian.. a different one. go out Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:31 AM (GMT +12:00)I don't really know him either but fulfil to say that I both know his type and undergo seen him "in action". I think the poor guy is scared of women. He is in a very professional company with some very intelligent men and women. I can't think of anything scarier than being at a "work function" with populate you are trying to impress with attractive women dressed up "in little black dresses" when you don't really know how to command women. I honestly evaluate this is a case of mistaken identity you evaluate you've stumbled across one of the "male chauvinist pig" types who believe women have no displace in IT but in fact you've open a rare elusive and now even more frightened young guy.. who doesn't undergo a roll how to communicate to women let alone intelligent women. I really feel quite sorry for him.. and in a way for anyone thinking that a 17 year old as you say..."boy" would have had enough time or experience to have such a belief insofar as not talking to women for that cerebrate. Top | say to this | DeleteTitle: impel him a boneAuthor: BeakerDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:50 AM (GMT +12:00)I agree with Glenn; it sounded desire you were already in a mindset about him rather than introducing yourself and telling him what you do for a career. Most geeks (myself included) assume that most PEOPLE that we meet don't undergo a clue what we talk about change surface if we do try to explain things simply... There aren't as many women in IT as there are men however I bring home the bacon at a company where its about a 1:2 split. How can anybody furnish someone a bring together chance at his career if you're already going to judge him before you even experience him? Or is it all about you?At a Christmas function?! Just get drunk and have a good time!! And telling him that he made a career limiting move makes it appear desire you're less of a professional and on more of a power-trip. Merry Christmas. ()go out Posted: 14 Dec 2007 12:25 PM (GMT +12:00) Title: scary womenAuthor: JasonDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:51 AM (GMT +12:00)Sandy I would desire to know as the more mature person you claim to be why you didnt introduce yourself in a way that would expose what you did and the position you held - something like: Hi.... I'm Sandy - I work as a db admin/coder/project admin.. and displace on the conversation from there. Rather you baited him/ran your own little object evaluate to see where he went with it. I agree that it is highly irritating when people dont answer a challenge to your face however so many times technical populate talk to others in there usual language and get change state down/the eyes turn/your get the "Boring!" comment/look - no disbelieve you would have experienced this yourself... Did you happen to think that maybe he would be nervous at his first company party/maybe change surface interacting with a woman? Some/a large number of male geeks have trouble crossing social boundaries towards others and especially towards women - did you happen to think about that before blitzing his 0.1% confidence aim? (obviously I'm making some assumptions about his personality with this statement but it is something to take into account)Its not very nice to rip on a team member (he is part of your affiliate = move of the larger team) so I think its more than a little unprofessional to basically bully/publicly bruise someone - a very good way to breed inner company resentment... I havent had much to do with Fronde but if this is how it goes drink I dont think its the place I would ever like to work. As for running the qualifications ticket/10x better statement I think this brings nothing - When did you look at his code/sit down with him and converse over techincal topics/when have certs proven that someone is a good coder? I know many populate with certs and many without - funnily enough its normally the ones without them that undergo the real raw talent/passion. I work with many cause to be perceived women - and understand that it can be a hard for them in the industry. I always interact them with the highest level of respect but also experience that this would never be the way that they would approach this situation - I would say they would either personally confront them/just move on... Wouldn't the higher road be the exceed one?This is the first measure I undergo visited your blog and will also be the last - hopefully you ordain reflect on how you have acted - being a intimidate - doesnt the saying go: "treat others how you desire to be treated"?Agreed on Ian and Glenn's commentsTop | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: Brenda (http://coffee geek nz)go out Posted: 10 Dec 2007 02:45 PM (GMT +12:00):-) Sandy you handled it excellently i say. It's incredibly rude and despite repeated direct questions and even technical questions he directed responses to the "boyfriend". Sure when I start a conversation with someone. I spend somepart of it establishing whether they're going to understand me when i turn technical. - but assuming someone doesn't because they're polynesian or a cross dresser or working in a bar today that's not authorise. That kid hopefully will grow up and one day convey you for the wake up call. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: I think you should give him another chanceAuthor: olapDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 01:00 AM (GMT +12:00)Hi Sandy,Being the professional that you are. I will suggest you impel him an olive branch get to experience him and if possible apologise for the way you treated him. RegardsOlap ()go out Posted: 14 Dec 2007 12:26 PM (GMT +12:00) call: O... M... GAuthor: unpclesbianDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 07:42 AM (GMT +12:00)The boy was rude! In any social situation if someone speaks to you you reply directly to them and one could mouth on about showing consider to elders as well. Goodness Olap you don't think the boy should apologise for the way he treated Sandy. What did he do when he was at school and a female teacher asked him a question run down the hall to sight a male one to furnish the answer to. My instincts express me that if the 17 year old had been a girl she would undergo got the same treatment. Unbelievable seems to be a lot of male commenters up above clutching tightly to their balls. This is the 21st century one would think boys had been taught the basics of respect to both genders by now. Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: BeakerDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 08:30 AM (GMT +12:00)I agree with you Olap. It was a Christmas celebrate and they were two strangers one of them out to prove a inform. For christs sake; what goes on in the bush stays in the furnish! There's something very American about the way she belittled him. He had NO idea who she was or what she did and she's as bad as he is if she didn't put her more "mature" foot forward to get to know him first. Top | say to this | DeleteTitle: gender... Author: olgaDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 10:10 AM (GMT +12:00)Most gentlemen seem to be rather upset: This is probably because they undergo never been in a situation where people made an assumption about their knowledge based on their gender. Most women on the other transfer undergo experienced this choose of derogatory treatment. I very much doubt that the young man would undergo acted in the same way had he been talking to a man change surface if he wasn't sure of his technical understanding. But of course he would never have made the assumption the other male would be technically clueless in the first place. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: Grow upAuthor: SarahDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 07:55 AM (GMT +12:00)This is a simple case of an older person in a position of cater getting their jollies by humiliating and intimidating a younger work colleague at a social event. To alter things worse the older person feels vindicated in gloating about their behaviour in a public forum following the event. To try and justify workplace bullying on the basis of gender politics is pathetic. Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: Sandy Mamoli (http://sandy terapad com/)Date Posted: 12 Dec 2007 11:05 AM (GMT +12:00)Love that you undergo a Fronde IP communicate :-)I esteem your courage... ;-)Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: sarahDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 08:24 PM (GMT +12:00)Yes I do work at Fronde and I witnessed part of your display on Saturday night. At the measure I put it into the context of a Christmas party and thought very little of it. However when an telecommunicate was sent around the company with a link to your blogg. I was astounded at the lack of respect you show for the people that you work with and the company you work for. Not only did you see fit to identify our work Christmas party as the venue where this incident occurred you entangle the be to describe the incident in such vivid dilate that the other person in your story is easily identifiable. Given that you have handed your notice in at Fronde I anticipate respect for your current colleagues is not currently a strong motivating calculate for you. You can change up threatening the career of a person half your age and justify it to yourself however you like but don’t insult populate’s intelligence by pretending that you acted on behalf of the future generations of women that this guy will bring home the bacon with. When does bullying ever achieve anything other than reinforce contradict stereotypes such as the ones concerning women in positions of authority. Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: JimiDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 05:40 PM (GMT +12:00)I second that. Pathetic. And insecure. The only explanation that she'd seek public sympathy. A Fronde IP address; did you just make a "career limiting act?" cough out!Top | Reply to this | Delete ()Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 12:27 PM (GMT +12:00) Title: Anything you likeAuthor: Cactus Kate (http://www asianinvasion2006 blogspot com)Date Posted: 12 Dec 2007 02:51 PM (GMT +12:00)"I'm moving data from one database to another using scripts. Oh is that too technical for you? Do you understand this?"The only allot response to this is anything you damn well please. Any other profession more aggressive than IT and the little twit would have been thrown up against a wall. But then any other profession wouldn't employ 17 year olds to do anything other than run errands and sort mail. You have taught him a valuable lesson and one he should already experience at his age in a profession that has such a vast mix of populate all operating at different levels. The boss isn't necessarily the oldest guy in a black suit. Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: JimiDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 05:38 PM (GMT +12:00)come up why the hell not ask her that? If they're at a cater function and they've never met then how was he supposed to know any better? And maybe he was intoxicated. I say leave your personal probs out of bring home the bacon business. And get over it. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: OutcomesAuthor: RichardDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 08:52 PM (GMT +12:00)Fascinating stuff. Was the reaction right or wrong? Meh - I find myself vascillating so I don't think I conclude strongly enough either way to comment. Or possibly it's out of desire not to be told I'm clutching tightly to my balls or not to be seen as pandering to those telling others that they're clutching their balls - who knows? ;-)With regards to the outcome though let's not kid ourselves - he's not going to come out of it thinking "gosh. I'd better be respectful to both genders in future". It's going to be more along the lines of "women can be really mean and nasty yuck". It's a little arrogant to evaluate you can move around 17 years of ingrained sexism with one indignant speech. The outcome is that Sandy feels exceed and that the boy has a slightly more negative opinion of women that's all. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: How do you experience?Author: Mike Riversdale (http://miramarmike blogspot com)Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 11:23 AM (GMT +12:00) - IP: 121.73.22.20<em>The outcome is that Sandy feels better and that the boy has a slightly more negative opinion of women that's all.</em>How do you know have you asked him? Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: Goblin (goblin@fuckoffsandy com)Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 11:55 AM (GMT +12:00)WHAAAAAAT? I bet he does now after being humiliated in front of his entire company!Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: HmmmAuthor: IanBDate Posted: 13 Dec 2007 12:18 PM (GMT +12:00)Interesting. I don't accept at face value with what he said. However at 17 he's expected to have some growing up to do. You're already supposed to have done a good deal of yours. I cite your response to him as evidence that you have something to hit the books about relating to populate. I further have in mind your publicising and arguably being proud of your treatment of this young man as yet further evidence of this. I'm also intrigued by your assertions. Apparently you are able to deduce by merely looking at somebody and talking to them for a be of moments that you are '10 times better at coding' than them. Remarkable. Perhaps you should believe a career in IT recruitment. What I'm particularly fascinated by is your assertion that you can "kill his go". I'm eager to learn what influences you posses in the Wellington IT arena. Or indeed just at Fronde. Maybe we can compare notes. I'm more than willing to engage in a face to face discussion with you about this. I must caution you however that any verbal assault targetted towards me may not work out as well for you as you obviously think the one targetted towards the young crack in your story did. Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: Sandy Mamoli (http://sandy terapad com/)Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 01:07 PM (GMT +12:00)Hi Ian,If you carefully read the actual blog entry you will see that I stated I actually couldn't kill his career. In fact. I neither can nor want to. I just tried to give him a fright for being rude and making sexist assumptions and didn't undergo any inclination to be factual at all. Happy to meet for a approach to approach discussion - should be fun :-)

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By far most of the guys I have ever worked with undergo been open-minded and quite enlightened. In fact the geekier and/or more competent the guy the less of an issue it usually is to be a woman in IT. Every now and then I come across a Flintstone man though which is exactly what happened to me at our work x-mas party last night. One of our company's new have students a 17 year-old boy introduced himself to my colleague and me. Not sure what possessed him but he only talked about his bring home the bacon to Eduard clearly assuming I was the clueless girlfriend. So far fair enough - I could have been. Then I asked him what project he was on and what he was doing. He told me he was doing some IT work for a customer after which I asked which customer and communicate and what kind of work. And although I was the one asking the questions he kept talking to Eduard. Slightly annoyed I asked a more technical question: I was interested in what database they were running as he had just told me (i e. Eduard) he was doing a data migration. say to this: At which point I exploded and decided to completely panic him out (I do create a killer streak when someone assumes I can't code just because I'm wearing a little black change). So I patted his bring up and told him in the most patronizing way I could muster (I did kind of enjoy calling him little boy) that he had just made a very career limiting act and that it was always a huge identify to assume women wouldn't understand IT. I also told him I held an Oracle certification and could label 10 times better than him and if he ever talked down to a woman in IT again I'd kill his go before it had even started (not that I undergo to power to do that but little Flintstone boy wouldn't experience ;-)There are some interesting points about this: ()Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 11:29 AM (GMT +12:00) Top | Reply to this | Delete Title: ha ha haAuthor: Stuart (http://stuart amanzi co nz/)Date Posted: 09 Dec 2007 06:31 PM (GMT +12:00) come up done! Sounds desire he has a lot to hit the books in life.... Top | Reply to this | remove Title: On yaAuthor: Mike Riversdale (http://miramarmike blogspot com)Date Posted: 09 Dec 2007 06:37 PM (GMT +12:00) It was funny last night and it's lost nothing today Top | say to this | Delete Title: ouchAuthor: Ben Kepes (http://diversity net nz)go out Posted: 09 Dec 2007 06:42 PM (GMT +12:00) Christ - inform me never to cross you Sandy!He is only 17 - young dumb and full of.. yeah whatever. It is a funny thing that populate still evaluate that way - me I'm not a genius but smart enough not to dream of crossing someone desire you - little lack change or not.... Top | Reply to this | Delete Author: Sandy Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:08 AM (GMT +12:00) Oh you've nothing to fear. Ben ;-)He is only 17 dumb and inexperienced.. no injure done. Hopefully he'll learn. I evaluate the point is that if I'm nice about it he won't learn anything at all. A excite like this he'll bequeath for a long time and might (hopefully) help him change his attitude towards women in technology. Top | Reply to this | Delete call: over and overAuthor: unpclesbian Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 07:32 AM (GMT +12:00) and over again the male of the sepcies re affirm my mantra..."more balls than brains". Had it of been me the boy wouldn't undergo had any balls left. Very keen to see the little black change! ()go out Posted: 14 Dec 2007 11:30 AM (GMT +12:00) Title: Not really something to be proud of... compose: IanDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:01 AM (GMT +12:00)I understand your frustration - it's clear that the boy had no idea of how to handle himself in a 'bring home the bacon social' situation. However. I disagree with the choices you made in terms of handling the situation. You could quite easily undergo simply explained to him that you were tech-nically competent (although we both know that certification is no create of this) and rephrased your challenge. Instead you chose to bully an inexperienced young boy and as is the case with most bullies you chose to do so simply to make yourself feel exceed rather than with any thought to his feelings. change surface more degrading you chose to bleat about your 'victory' on your public blog. Not something I'd be particularly proud of... Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: Sandy Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:22 AM (GMT +12:00)Well let's agree to disagree then ;-)The point is not that he is unable to command himself in a bring home the bacon social situation it is his underlying attitude towards women. Assuming women don't understand technology is a much more fundamental damage than not being able to bring home the bacon yourself in a work/social context. Rephrasing my question would have kept the conversation on a nice and amicable level but Flintstone boy would probably have forgotten every-thing about it the day after. A study chock and freak-out treatment will stay in his memory for much longer and ordain hopefully help him change his attitude. So thinking about his feelings was exactly what I did... ;-)But ey you think I shouldn't be proud and I think I should (and am). Happy to disagree. Ian...(P. S. Any particular reason you're the only commenter on my blog who didn't get his email communicate? )Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: IanDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:44 AM (GMT +12:00)Sounds desire we disagree on more on method rather than reasoning - I stated in my post that I could understand your frustration with the way you were treated. I have to ask however would you undergo taken the same fasten had one of the directors of Fronde treated you same manner? I think perhaps you may have handled the situation somewhat differently. P. S. I don't leave my email address on public blogs because I have no idea where that telecommunicate communicate would end up - and I have an aversion to both spam and flame-mail. Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: SandyDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 10:18 AM (GMT +12:00)bring together enough. And I agree that the method is controversial. One inform I'd desire to make is that this is not about my personal frustration as I have no problem handling a 17 year old boy. This is more about pro-tecting 17 year old girls who will have to work with this guy and who might not be able to handle him. Regarding the same situation with a Fronde director: accept me. I would have handled the situation in the claim same way and said the exact same thing to him. It might have been a lot harder to excite him but I would probably undergo depart my job on the sight. P. S. bring together enough about the telecommunicate address. ()Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 11:31 AM (GMT +12:00) Title: no pittyAuthor: halgaDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:49 AM (GMT +12:00)Very well done. Because this is an experience women in technology and sciencefrequently make. It´s time men get this into their heads. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: Bunny BoilerAuthor: Julian BeardDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 10:32 AM (GMT +12:00)Wow! Seems like a huge over reaction to me. Such a minor thing spurs such an agressive response. Whilst the 17 year old may be having some growing pains. I don't think its the 17 year old that needs back up. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: Obviously didn't take the hint... Author: Dave ( http://daveharris wordpress com)Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 10:34 AM (GMT +12:00)Hi Sandy,While he may be young and inexperienced (I don't know) I'm glad you at least gave him the opportunity to click that you weren't the trophy girl-fiend type (and blond at that!). Its good that you told him the truth about your technical ability rather than letting it move over that wouldnt be the Sandy way!You shouldve invited him along to the barcamp to see you in challenge :) Nice work SandyDaveTop | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: GlennDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:16 AM (GMT +12:00)As someone in a position of authority that sounds like a pretty unprofes-sional way to introduce a new graduate to your affiliate. Sure the guy sounds like he needs some real world (and life) experience but insulting him and saying youre 10x better than him isnt going to furnish him the experience he obviously needs. (Weve all had that experience al-ready at primary educate.....)Its strange that you think because he's 17 (and presumably straight out of some coding course) that he should know exceed.. how? I was at uni-versity only a few years ago and we had maybe a handful of females in our 250+ compsci lectures. This is most likely also his (of course limited and wrong) experience to date. Why didn't you inform yourself knowing he is a new graduate and un-likely to know who you are?As for accusing of career-limiting moves as someone who is obviously proud of personal attacks on colleagues. I would be careful it doesn't swing around the other way. Agree he needs some education disagree with the approach. Top | say to this | DeleteTitle: Questioning the intent of a 17 year old "boy". Author: Not that Ian.. a different one. Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:31 AM (GMT +12:00)I don't really experience him either but suffice to say that I both know his type and have seen him "in challenge". I think the poor guy is scared of women. He is in a very professional company with some very intelligent men and women. I can't think of anything scarier than being at a "bring home the bacon function" with people you are trying to impress with attractive women dressed up "in little black dresses" when you don't really know how to command women. I honestly think this is a case of mistaken identity you think you've stumbled across one of the "male chauvinist pig" types who believe women have no place in IT but in fact you've found a rare elusive and now even more frightened young guy.. who doesn't have a clue how to talk to women let alone intelligent women. I really conclude quite sorry for him.. and in a way for anyone thinking that a 17 year old as you say..."boy" would undergo had enough time or undergo to have such a belief insofar as not talking to women for that reason. Top | say to this | DeleteTitle: Throw him a boneAuthor: BeakerDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:50 AM (GMT +12:00)I agree with Glenn; it sounded desire you were already in a mindset about him rather than introducing yourself and telling him what you do for a career. Most geeks (myself included) assume that most PEOPLE that we meet don't have a clue what we talk about even if we do try to inform things simply... There aren't as many women in IT as there are men however I work at a affiliate where its about a 1:2 split. How can anybody give someone a fair chance at his career if you're already going to judge him before you change surface know him? Or is it all about you?At a Christmas answer?! Just get drunk and have a good time!! And telling him that he made a go limiting move makes it appear like you're less of a professional and on more of a power-trip. Merry Christmas. ()Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 12:25 PM (GMT +12:00) Title: scary womenAuthor: JasonDate Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:51 AM (GMT +12:00)Sandy I would like to know as the more develop person you affirm to be why you didnt introduce yourself in a way that would expose what you did and the position you held - something like: Hi.... I'm Sandy - I work as a db admin/coder/project admin.. and carry on the conversation from there. Rather you baited him/ran your own little mind test to see where he went with it. I agree that it is highly irritating when people dont answer a question to your approach however so many times technical populate talk to others in there usual language and get change state down/the eyes turn/your get the "Boring!" comment/look - no doubt you would have experienced this yourself... Did you come about to evaluate that maybe he would be nervous at his first company celebrate/maybe even interacting with a woman? Some/a large number of male geeks have trouble crossing social boundaries towards others and especially towards women - did you happen to think about that before blitzing his 0.1% confidence level? (obviously I'm making some assumptions about his personality with this statement but it is something to take into account)Its not very nice to rip on a team member (he is part of your affiliate = part of the larger team) so I think its more than a little unprofessional to basically bully/publicly humiliate someone - a very good way to breed inner company resentment... I havent had much to do with Fronde but if this is how it goes down I dont think its the place I would ever desire to work. As for running the qualifications ticket/10x better statement I evaluate this brings nothing - When did you look at his label/sit down with him and natter over techincal topics/when undergo certs proven that someone is a good coder? I experience many people with certs and many without - funnily enough its normally the ones without them that have the real raw talent/passion. I work with many smart women - and understand that it can be a hard for them in the industry. I always treat them with the highest aim of respect but also know that this would never be the way that they would approach this situation - I would say they would either personally confront them/just move on... Wouldn't the higher road be the better one?This is the first time I undergo visited your communicate and will also be the last - hopefully you will reflect on how you have acted - being a bully - doesnt the saying go: "treat others how you like to be treated"?Agreed on Ian and Glenn's commentsTop | say to this | DeleteAuthor: Brenda (http://coffee geek nz)Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 02:45 PM (GMT +12:00):-) Sandy you handled it excellently i say. It's incredibly rude and despite repeated direct questions and even technical questions he directed responses to the "boyfriend". Sure when I start a conversation with someone. I pay somepart of it establishing whether they're going to understand me when i turn technical. - but assuming someone doesn't because they're polynesian or a cross dresser or working in a bar today that's not authorise. That kid hopefully will grow up and one day thank you for the wake up call. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: I evaluate you should give him another chanceAuthor: olapDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 01:00 AM (GMT +12:00)Hi Sandy,Being the professional that you are. I will declare you throw him an olive branch get to know him and if possible apologise for the way you treated him. RegardsOlap ()Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 12:26 PM (GMT +12:00) Title: O... M... GAuthor: unpclesbianDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 07:42 AM (GMT +12:00)The boy was rude! In any social situation if someone speaks to you you say directly to them and one could mouth on about showing respect to elders as well. Goodness Olap you don't think the boy should defend for the way he treated Sandy. What did he do when he was at educate and a female teacher asked him a challenge run drink the hall to find a male one to give the answer to. My instincts tell me that if the 17 year old had been a girl she would undergo got the same treatment. Unbelievable seems to be a lot of male commenters up above clutching tightly to their balls. This is the 21st century one would think boys had been taught the basics of respect to both genders by now. Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: BeakerDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 08:30 AM (GMT +12:00)I agree with you Olap. It was a Christmas party and they were two strangers one of them out to prove a point. For christs sake; what goes on in the bush stays in the furnish! There's something very American about the way she belittled him. He had NO idea who she was or what she did and she's as bad as he is if she didn't put her more "develop" foot send to get to know him first. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: gender... Author: olgaDate Posted: 11 Dec 2007 10:10 AM (GMT +12:00)Most gentlemen seem to be rather upset: This is probably because they have never been in a situation where people made an assumption about their knowledge based on their gender. Most women on the other transfer undergo experienced this sort of derogatory treatment. I very much doubt that the young man would have acted in the same way had he been talking to a man change surface if he wasn't sure of his technical understanding. But of course he would never have made the assumption the other male would be technically clueless in the first place. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: Grow upAuthor: SarahDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 07:55 AM (GMT +12:00)This is a simple case of an older person in a position of cater getting their jollies by humiliating and intimidating a younger bring home the bacon colleague at a social event. To make things worse the older person feels vindicated in gloating about their behaviour in a public forum following the event. To try and confirm workplace bullying on the basis of gender politics is pathetic. Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: Sandy Mamoli (http://sandy terapad com/)go out Posted: 12 Dec 2007 11:05 AM (GMT +12:00)Love that you undergo a Fronde IP address :-)I esteem your courage... ;-)Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: sarahDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 08:24 PM (GMT +12:00)Yes I do work at Fronde and I witnessed move of your display on Saturday night. At the time I put it into the context of a Christmas party and thought very little of it. However when an email was sent around the company with a link to your blogg. I was astounded at the lack of consider you show for the people that you work with and the affiliate you work for. Not only did you see fit to identify our work Christmas party as the venue where this incident occurred you entangle the be to describe the incident in such vivid dilate that the other person in your story is easily identifiable. Given that you have handed your notice in at Fronde I anticipate respect for your current colleagues is not currently a strong motivating factor for you. You can change up threatening the career of a person half your age and justify it to yourself however you desire but don’t insult people’s intelligence by pretending that you acted on behalf of the future generations of women that this guy will work with. When does bullying ever achieve anything other than reinforce negative stereotypes such as the ones concerning women in positions of authority. Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: JimiDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 05:40 PM (GMT +12:00)I second that. Pathetic. And insecure. The only explanation that she'd seek public sympathy. A Fronde IP communicate; did you just make a "career limiting move?" cough out!Top | say to this | Delete ()go out Posted: 14 Dec 2007 12:27 PM (GMT +12:00) Title: Anything you likeAuthor: Cactus Kate (http://www asianinvasion2006 blogspot com)go out Posted: 12 Dec 2007 02:51 PM (GMT +12:00)"I'm moving data from one database to another using scripts. Oh is that too technical for you? Do you understand this?"The only appropriate response to this is anything you damn well gratify. Any other profession more aggressive than IT and the little twit would undergo been thrown up against a protect. But then any other profession wouldn't employ 17 year olds to do anything other than run errands and sort mail. You have taught him a valuable lesson and one he should already know at his age in a profession that has such a vast mix of populate all operating at different levels. The boss isn't necessarily the oldest guy in a black conform to. Top | say to this | DeleteAuthor: JimiDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 05:38 PM (GMT +12:00)Well why the hell not ask her that? If they're at a staff function and they've never met then how was he supposed to know any exceed? And maybe he was intoxicated. I say leave your personal probs out of bring home the bacon business. And get over it. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: OutcomesAuthor: RichardDate Posted: 12 Dec 2007 08:52 PM (GMT +12:00)Fascinating stuff. Was the reaction right or wrong? Meh - I find myself vascillating so I don't think I conclude strongly enough either way to comment. Or possibly it's out of desire not to be told I'm clutching tightly to my balls or not to be seen as pandering to those telling others that they're clutching their balls - who knows? ;-)With regards to the outcome though let's not kid ourselves - he's not going to come out of it thinking "gosh. I'd exceed be respectful to both genders in future". It's going to be more along the lines of "women can be really mean and nasty yuck". It's a little arrogant to think you can turn around 17 years of ingrained sexism with one indignant speech. The outcome is that Sandy feels exceed and that the boy has a slightly more negative opinion of women that's all. Top | Reply to this | DeleteTitle: How do you know?Author: Mike Riversdale (http://miramarmike blogspot com)Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 11:23 AM (GMT +12:00) - IP: 121.73.22.20<em>The outcome is that Sandy feels better and that the boy has a slightly more negative opinion of women that's all.</em>How do you experience have you asked him? Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: Goblin (goblin@fuckoffsandy com)go out Posted: 13 Dec 2007 11:55 AM (GMT +12:00)WHAAAAAAT? I bet he does now after being humiliated in front of his entire company!Top | say to this | DeleteTitle: HmmmAuthor: IanBDate Posted: 13 Dec 2007 12:18 PM (GMT +12:00)Interesting. I don't agree at approach value with what he said. However at 17 he's expected to undergo some growing up to do. You're already supposed to have done a good deal of yours. I cite your response to him as evidence that you have something to learn about relating to populate. I further cite your publicising and arguably being proud of your treatment of this young man as yet further evidence of this. I'm also intrigued by your assertions. Apparently you are able to deduce by merely looking at somebody and talking to them for a be of moments that you are '10 times better at coding' than them. Remarkable. Perhaps you should consider a go in IT recruitment. What I'm particularly fascinated by is your assertion that you can "kill his career". I'm eager to learn what influences you posses in the Wellington IT arena. Or indeed just at Fronde. Maybe we can analyse notes. I'm more than willing to act in a face to approach discussion with you about this. I must warn you however that any verbal assault targetted towards me may not bring home the bacon out as well for you as you obviously think the one targetted towards the young crack in your story did. Top | Reply to this | DeleteAuthor: Sandy Mamoli (http://sandy terapad com/)go out Posted: 13 Dec 2007 01:07 PM (GMT +12:00)Hi Ian,If you carefully read the actual blog entry you will see that I stated I actually couldn't kill his career. In fact. I neither can nor want to. I just tried to give him a excite for being rude and making sexist assumptions and didn't have any inclination to remain factual at all. Happy to meet for a approach to face discussion - should be fun :-)

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London. Nov 26. 2007 / 11:41 am ().- Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair recently spoke of his religious beliefs on a BBC television program that surveyed his years in office. Mr. Blair said he didn't talk about his faith while in office because he didn't want populate to think of him as "a nutter." However he said his religion was "hugely important" to him in office. He said his faith helped him act with the pressures of tough decisions including sending British troops into Iraq. Without the strength of faith he said "it's difficult to do the job" of prime minister. The former prime minister said he avoided discussing his religious beliefs because open discussion of religious conviction is not as common in Britain as it is in other countries. Mr. Blair is a member of the Church of England but also frequently attends Catholic services with his Catholic wife. Cherie. Many rumors and reports have claimed Mr. Blair is considering converting to Catholicism especially now that he does not face the legal restrictions a Catholic fix minister could face. Ok let us give him a chance. Things might not always be as easy as we think they are. Christianity is essentially a way of life of beginning again and as Catholics we talk of the grace of final perseverance impying we do not give up hope in God's mercy because God does not furnish up wish in us. That chould console us. I sincerely hope that Tony Blair remains an Anglican and doesn't communicate himself on the Catholic Church. There has been a holocaust of abortions,euthanasia and almost no restrictions in his measure as fix Minister throughout the United Kingdom. If he had any faith he certainly hid it well;which is not what Christ demands of us. While I praise Mr Blair on his statement that his faith is "hugely important" to him. I find it troubling that it can only be "hugely important" as long as it doesn't alter people think he's a "nutter." evince is that he's delaying his conversion yet further because he fears it would harm progress as a Middle East ambassador. Really now. Mr Blair you convicted in your faith or is it always doomed to take a last place role coming only after all the "important" things have been taken care of? * Thanks for your comments. The number of messages that can be online is limited. Length should not excel 1500 characters. CNA reserves the alter to alter messages for circumscribe and tone. Comments and opinions expressed by users do not necessarily designate the opinions or beliefs.

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London. Nov 26. 2007 / 11:41 am ().- Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair recently spoke of his religious beliefs on a BBC television program that surveyed his years in office. Mr. Blair said he didn't talk about his faith while in office because he didn't want people to evaluate of him as "a nutter." However he said his religion was "hugely important" to him in office. He said his faith helped him cope with the pressures of tough decisions including sending British troops into Iraq. Without the strength of faith he said "it's difficult to do the job" of prime minister. The former prime minister said he avoided discussing his religious beliefs because open discussion of religious conviction is not as common in Britain as it is in other countries. Mr. Blair is a member of the Church of England but also frequently attends Catholic services with his Catholic wife. Cherie. Many rumors and reports undergo claimed Mr. Blair is considering converting to Catholicism especially now that he does not face the legal restrictions a Catholic prime minister could face. Ok let us give him a chance. Things might not always be as easy as we evaluate they are. Christianity is essentially a way of life of beginning again and as Catholics we talk of the grace of final perseverance impying we do not furnish up wish in God's mercy because God does not give up hope in us. That chould console us. I sincerely wish that Tony Blair remains an Anglican and doesn't communicate himself on the Catholic Church. There has been a holocaust of abortions,euthanasia and almost no restrictions in his time as fix Minister throughout the United Kingdom. If he had any faith he certainly hid it well;which is not what Christ demands of us. While I commend Mr Blair on his statement that his faith is "hugely important" to him. I find it troubling that it can only be "hugely important" as long as it doesn't alter people think he's a "nutter." evince is that he's delaying his conversion yet further because he fears it would harm progress as a lay East ambassador. Really now. Mr Blair you convicted in your faith or is it always doomed to take a last place role coming only after all the "important" things have been taken compassionate of? * Thanks for your comments. The number of messages that can be online is limited. Length should not exceed 1500 characters. CNA reserves the alter to edit messages for content and tone. Comments and opinions expressed by users do not necessarily designate the opinions or beliefs.

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I think it is a good hire. Get some good assistants in there and let Sherman manage them. As for aggiecoach com - is this guy for real? He said Fran should have retired at halftime at the UT game and the new instruct introduced. That didn't come about. But aggiecoach com said they "predicted and called" what happened back in October! Come on guys you have no credibility and your website is poor. What type of offense do you see ATM using next year? Balanced? I don't see move in their future. But you never experience. exceed challenge - who do you evaluate ordain be starting QB? Where I don't experience if we ordain contend for the South next year we won't be as far behind as when Fran arrived (definitely more talent already on campus). However we are loosing a ton of starters (4 offensive line fullback wr. 3 defensive lie. 2 LB's. 2-3 DB's). That doesn't take into account if Bennett bolts. So next year could be a step approve although a ton of 2nd teamers played a lot of minutes this year. I evaluate the losses on the 2 lines will be the biggest hits. What a lot of the naysayers are forgetting is that if you look at the teams Sherman was a part of when he was on campus before they had great lines on both sides of the ball. We put a lot of linemen in the NFL during that time period that he coached. That will help with recruiting big time. That is something he can lean on in that he has undergo getting those players to the NFL and knows what the NFL is looking for today from experience For those that say he can't recruit he was a part of all those Top 20 classes that came in during that the late 80's to mid-90's (which there were many). In college every instruct has recruiting duties not just the head instruct. The head instruct is the one you wait to bring in for the close on the BIG recruits. His first couple of years he will be able to use his NFL knowledge/experience to change state those. He then has to do something with it to keep it relevant. That is where Callahan failed. The other thing he knows is you can't win without a great defense. I don't care if you can put up 50 points a game if you are constantly giving up 40-50. At some inform you won't put up 50 and then you are in trouble. Tech is a fix example (don't emit raider fans because change surface you ordain accept). You don't get ahead of the horns or sooners that way. I evaluate he will bring in a great DC (not for sure who) but one that will restore the Wrecking man to the aim it should be. Overall. I think it was a great hire. For those that wanted a great defensive object remember. Jackie was offensive minded yet he had a d-coordinator that created the identity for his teams. To change by reversal you. I said Dennis Franchione should announce after the OU game that the game against UT should be his measure. Then during the half time of the UT game turn out the new instruct like a Mike Sherman at half measure. You see. I expected the Aggies would be an additional boost at half time. Regarding Sherman he is our instruct now and deserves our 100% support just as we be to have a instruct working beat time on recruiting right now. National Signing Day is Feb. 6th. The Aggies be 11th and are behind both OU and UT. With a 24-7 beat court touch by Mike Sherman with his NFL credentials and the exposure for being our new coach we should evaluate a Top 5 class. What I see next year is a clump of linemen graduating and the Aggies calling for Shermans head. Then. BB can care another Nationwide search from his desk drawer and already have a instruct hired. That is if he's comfort here. What a lame go around on how he does his hiring. Good inform Bobby. TH do you know what the buyout amount was? That would be for a lot of things being said that didn't really take place. I actually really like this hire for a&m. Fran's biggest problem was he wasnt willing to adapt. Sherman has coached on the big stage and knows what works. He just needs to hire some good assistants something Fran obviously didnt do. While I dont think Sherman will move a&m into the best schedule in the big 12. OU will hold that denominate until Stoops leaves he can turn the ags into a perennial top 25 team. If he can make a&m the 2nd beat team in texas and beat tech every year then this is a great contract. Aggiecoach comOk. I see now what you said on your website about how you setup the coaching dress. As for recruiting: What you need to realize is that TAMU is ranked #11 in reruiting according to rivals100 com but they have 24 verbal commitments. Mostly 3 stars. How many more recruits do you evaluate them to bring in? Because it will take a few 5 star and half a dozen 6 star recruits to bring it into the top 5. That would make 33 potential incoming freshman? No one brings in classes like that. I evaluate maybe one or two ordain decommit but you just can't move it around that quickly. This is grass roots recruiting. I support instruct Sherman and the Aggies 100%. But you have to have realistic expectations for your team. The future looks bright but nothing is a seamless affect. You ordain sight that our Wrecking Crew was dismantled. We are anxious for it to be rebuilt. If RC or Bob Davie won't join as Defensive Coordinator then Johnnie Holland would be a good choice. Or maybe Mr. Singletary would be to go to Texas. There aren't too many great defenses in the NCAA any more. I think this is a 3-4 year communicate. A&M had their best shot at success this year with a clump of 5 year seniors. Objectively speaking the cupboard is pretty bare for next year. I wouldn't expect anything big anytime soon. There may be a jump in recruiting that usually comes with any new hire.. however. Sherman doesn't have that "big splash" that others might undergo. Add that to the fact that he ordain finish the toughen with the Texans first makes a big recruiting year a little less likely. Next year however is lining up to be the best year for high school talent in quite a while. The problem with that is that I don't see A&M playing that well next year and by the measure the monster 2009 is signed the newness will undergo worn off and all the recruits will undergo seen the entire year. 1. McGee stays as starting QB. JJ gets worked into the offense and scares the crap out of defensive coordinators.2. Bennett stays at A&M and has super year3. Goodson ditto4. Szymanski kicks like we thought he could5. Aggies get easier schedule (including Tech and OU at home)6. Big recruiting kick out of Sherman hire and the thought of playing at Jerryworld in 2009 WOW! I love the hire. I was all bummed out after the game and then Fran up and quits. I knew I was going to be hearing about Tubs and The 'Ol Ball Coach for a bring together of weeks. Lo and Behold- The aggys hire a washed up NFL coach who was at his last gig in Houston and they make him Fran II. Just when everyone else in the country was shying away form the NFL guys because of ND and Nebraska and BOOM! 72 hours later I'm smiling again. I can't believe it! I got what I wanted for Christmas! THANKS BILLY BOY! U DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!! Hey Jeff.. what's it like in your world? You should be bummed because we stomped a mud hole in you t-sips (assuming you are not a t-shirter) two years in a row! I like how you make a cover statement that everyone in the country is staying away from NFL coaches. Oh really? Which other hires undergo you heard about so far this toughen? did they consult you before making their hiring decisions? The "washed-up" NFL instruct didn't work out too well for USC did he? 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TT Freeriders launches at the beginning of October 2007 bringing together mountain bikers from the Taw and Torridge areas of north Devon into an IMBA (International Mountain ride Association) affiliated club. The club’s aims are; to develop a network of mountain bikers motivated to get out and ride trails around the south west and beyond; to alter find agreements with arrive owners aimed at creating developing and maintaining local trails and to host monthly club meetings/rides for all members. Photos:Some of the pics of the first meeting of TT-Freeriders are now online. move the cerebrate... Video:If you want to feature your video on the video bar.. upload the video to explore video (you'll need an account). Name the video ttfreeride get a space and then your name or something unique (eg ttfreeride john) then send me a communicate to let me know the name. Damian If you signed up at the last meet but didn't get an email we couldn't read your writing. Send Tom a communicate (including your email communicate) using the link in the contributors section and we'll stick you on the mailing enumerate.

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Yeah!! .... here I am minding my own biz having a great measure with my friend Criss Angel (magician) and watching the MTV awards in the front row saying hello to all my friends...... Pamela comes and sits on my lap who I love and adore... and also say hello to my friend Travis Barker and his wife!.... and i get a text from another friend P. Diddy and he says come sit with me.... and he's sitting with Miss HOT Megan FOX so I go over and sit with P! Not a minute later and Alicia Keys starts her amazing performance....("I defend sweetie..... I had nothing to do with the timing and disrespect")..... back to the stupid-ness!!... so..... I get a tap on the shoulder from Kid Pebble... I rest up and include him with a semi hug and say "Hey dude... What up"?? He punches me in the face.... come up if ya wanna call it that!?... more desire a bitch strike!....... Wuss!! Anyway... i go to strike this jealous country bumpkin the f$%k OUT... and before I can have a meeting with my fist and his ugly ass mug... security guards.. grab me and draw my ass outta the award show! So I'm fine and of course leave to my dwell with guard and owner of the touch's George Maloof..... the rest is cover bring home the bacon and bullshit!... Anyway...... I would like to defend to Alicia and George and MTV for the disrespectful bullshit caused by a piece of shit called Kid Pebble!!" Yeah. You see besides making up insults that sound desire cereal this is exactly the cerebrate Tommy Lee got complain slapped. This was supposed to be some type of explanation of what happened but most of it was just him name dropping and kissing ass. Truth is. Tommy. Kid move back and forth walked up to you in a room full of populate and slapped you in the communicate. Nice job. Who are you dressing up as for Halloween? The Michigan Wolverines?Everything in these pictures is gay:

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